Hi Phillip, yes, at least I receive no longer a bounce mail when writing to mqser...@cpan.org. Let's see if anyone answers...
Regards, Thorsten 2017-04-18 16:26 GMT+02:00 Phillip Moore <w.phillip.mo...@gmail.com>: > Apologies for the delay on getting back to everyone.... I was out of the > country on vacation, and ignoring anything and everything remotely related > to work. > > I heard back from the engineering team that owns the MQSeries module, and > they have brought someone pretty senior into the team, and they have a plan > to address the backlog of issues (both internal and external) in the coming > months. The mqser...@cpan.org address should work again, as they > re-enabled the internal mail group it was directed to. > > Can you try to reach out to them again, and reboot the conversation? > > > On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 8:02 AM, David Golden <da...@autopragmatic.com> > wrote: > >> Make sure MS understands it's not a transfer of copyright, it's just >> authorizing someone new to ship big fixes to CPAN. >> >> >> On Mar 27, 2017 6:04 AM, "Neil Bowers" <neil.bow...@cogendo.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Phil, >>> >>> Thanks for your reply and honest appraisal of the situation. >>> >>> This is very sad, and as the original author of the code, I would like >>> to apologize on behalf of those who have inherited in from me. Except >>> that I have *NO* idea who that is. I wrote and owned this code from 1998 >>> to 2002. Hildo also left the project and Morgan Stanley a few years >>> later, and the engineering team that manages the MQSeries infrastructure >>> Hildo and I designed and deployed are the ones responsible for the CPAN >>> distro now. That team *was* pretty good, but they entire team quit or >>> changed projects in 2012, which explains the final release date. >>> >>> Now, I am going to be characteristically blunt here: all the good >>> engineers are gone from that team, and I don't think they are giving ANY >>> priority to maintaining the CPAN distribution, because none of them have >>> any clue how. If you have the skills and the interest in taking this >>> over, I would be more than happy to help broker getting the ownership >>> transferred. >>> >>> >>> If you can help us get approval from “the right place in Morgan >>> Stanley”, that would be great. >>> >>> If push comes to shove, I am pretty sure that if Hildo and I endorsed >>> it, the CPAN maintainers would make the change. >>> >>> >>> I should have made clear in my first response — I am one of the PAUSE >>> admins. >>> >>> […] Now, I honestly think that the team in question is so deep >>> underwater with everything we created (that infrastructure and the >>> management application we built are perhaps the most successful work of my >>> career, and they still use it), that they will most likely be thrilled to >>> give this up. >>> >>> Anyway, if it is not obvious, please keep this discussion entirely >>> confidential for now. >>> >>> >>> Just so you’re aware, the PAUSE admins mailing list (modules@perl.org) >>> has been copied on these emails. There is a public archive of these emails, >>> but it’s not likely that people will stumble on those archives. If you want >>> to continue this discussion off that list, just let us know. >>> >>> I am putting the priorities of the open source community before those of >>> my employers here, and so taking a bit of political risk by doing so. I >>> am, for lack of clearly better judgment, working at MS again right now, so >>> I would appreciate you NOT sharing this discussion publicly until it is >>> appropriate to do so. This is also why I am in the perfect spot to broker >>> the ownership change. >>> >>> >>> I appreciate you doing this. >>> >>> reach out to Golden, and inquire about the process here, as I don't >>> think you will ever see another release if we don't, so I will bring him >>> into this discussion as well. Please give me about a week to get the >>> internal feedback on this. >>> >>> >>> Since the code is copyright Morgan Stanley, and was last released from a >>> Morgan Stanley account, we’ll need some approval from MS to hand over >>> maintenance. If you can get approval and forward it to us, I can then give >>> co-maint to Thorsten on all of the MQSeries modules. This doesn’t need a >>> formal signature, but once you’ve spoken to the right person in MS, you >>> could send an email to us and cc that person, with a simple email along the >>> lines of: >>> >>> Dear PAUSE Admins, >>> >>> I’ve spoken to XX at Morgan Stanley, who is happy for co-maint >>> permissions to be granted to Thorsten Hirsch on the MQSeries distribution. >>> I’ve copied XX on this email. >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> >>> Given Thorsten’s recent email, it will hopefully be relatively easy to >>> make a good case for this, as it’s going to result in active maintenance >>> and bug fixing (I notice there’s at least one patch from Thorsten in the RT >>> bug queue for the dist). They’re clearly dependent on this module in >>> production, and have a good CPAN pedigree. >>> >>> Let me know if there’s anything else I can do to help. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Neil >>> >>> >>> >
