Apologies for the delay on getting back to everyone.... I was out of the country on vacation, and ignoring anything and everything remotely related to work.
I heard back from the engineering team that owns the MQSeries module, and they have brought someone pretty senior into the team, and they have a plan to address the backlog of issues (both internal and external) in the coming months. The mqser...@cpan.org address should work again, as they re-enabled the internal mail group it was directed to. Can you try to reach out to them again, and reboot the conversation? On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 8:02 AM, David Golden <da...@autopragmatic.com> wrote: > Make sure MS understands it's not a transfer of copyright, it's just > authorizing someone new to ship big fixes to CPAN. > > > On Mar 27, 2017 6:04 AM, "Neil Bowers" <neil.bow...@cogendo.com> wrote: > >> Hi Phil, >> >> Thanks for your reply and honest appraisal of the situation. >> >> This is very sad, and as the original author of the code, I would like to >> apologize on behalf of those who have inherited in from me. Except that I >> have *NO* idea who that is. I wrote and owned this code from 1998 to >> 2002. Hildo also left the project and Morgan Stanley a few years later, >> and the engineering team that manages the MQSeries infrastructure Hildo and >> I designed and deployed are the ones responsible for the CPAN distro now. >> That team *was* pretty good, but they entire team quit or changed projects >> in 2012, which explains the final release date. >> >> Now, I am going to be characteristically blunt here: all the good >> engineers are gone from that team, and I don't think they are giving ANY >> priority to maintaining the CPAN distribution, because none of them have >> any clue how. If you have the skills and the interest in taking this >> over, I would be more than happy to help broker getting the ownership >> transferred. >> >> >> If you can help us get approval from “the right place in Morgan Stanley”, >> that would be great. >> >> If push comes to shove, I am pretty sure that if Hildo and I endorsed >> it, the CPAN maintainers would make the change. >> >> >> I should have made clear in my first response — I am one of the PAUSE >> admins. >> >> […] Now, I honestly think that the team in question is so deep underwater >> with everything we created (that infrastructure and the management >> application we built are perhaps the most successful work of my career, and >> they still use it), that they will most likely be thrilled to give this up. >> >> Anyway, if it is not obvious, please keep this discussion entirely >> confidential for now. >> >> >> Just so you’re aware, the PAUSE admins mailing list (modules@perl.org) >> has been copied on these emails. There is a public archive of these emails, >> but it’s not likely that people will stumble on those archives. If you want >> to continue this discussion off that list, just let us know. >> >> I am putting the priorities of the open source community before those of >> my employers here, and so taking a bit of political risk by doing so. I >> am, for lack of clearly better judgment, working at MS again right now, so >> I would appreciate you NOT sharing this discussion publicly until it is >> appropriate to do so. This is also why I am in the perfect spot to broker >> the ownership change. >> >> >> I appreciate you doing this. >> >> reach out to Golden, and inquire about the process here, as I don't think >> you will ever see another release if we don't, so I will bring him into >> this discussion as well. Please give me about a week to get the internal >> feedback on this. >> >> >> Since the code is copyright Morgan Stanley, and was last released from a >> Morgan Stanley account, we’ll need some approval from MS to hand over >> maintenance. If you can get approval and forward it to us, I can then give >> co-maint to Thorsten on all of the MQSeries modules. This doesn’t need a >> formal signature, but once you’ve spoken to the right person in MS, you >> could send an email to us and cc that person, with a simple email along the >> lines of: >> >> Dear PAUSE Admins, >> >> I’ve spoken to XX at Morgan Stanley, who is happy for co-maint >> permissions to be granted to Thorsten Hirsch on the MQSeries distribution. >> I’ve copied XX on this email. >> >> Phil >> >> >> Given Thorsten’s recent email, it will hopefully be relatively easy to >> make a good case for this, as it’s going to result in active maintenance >> and bug fixing (I notice there’s at least one patch from Thorsten in the RT >> bug queue for the dist). They’re clearly dependent on this module in >> production, and have a good CPAN pedigree. >> >> Let me know if there’s anything else I can do to help. >> >> Cheers, >> Neil >> >> >>
