Make sure MS understands it's not a transfer of copyright, it's just authorizing someone new to ship big fixes to CPAN.
On Mar 27, 2017 6:04 AM, "Neil Bowers" <neil.bow...@cogendo.com> wrote: > Hi Phil, > > Thanks for your reply and honest appraisal of the situation. > > This is very sad, and as the original author of the code, I would like to > apologize on behalf of those who have inherited in from me. Except that I > have *NO* idea who that is. I wrote and owned this code from 1998 to > 2002. Hildo also left the project and Morgan Stanley a few years later, > and the engineering team that manages the MQSeries infrastructure Hildo and > I designed and deployed are the ones responsible for the CPAN distro now. > That team *was* pretty good, but they entire team quit or changed projects > in 2012, which explains the final release date. > > Now, I am going to be characteristically blunt here: all the good > engineers are gone from that team, and I don't think they are giving ANY > priority to maintaining the CPAN distribution, because none of them have > any clue how. If you have the skills and the interest in taking this > over, I would be more than happy to help broker getting the ownership > transferred. > > > If you can help us get approval from “the right place in Morgan Stanley”, > that would be great. > > If push comes to shove, I am pretty sure that if Hildo and I endorsed it, > the CPAN maintainers would make the change. > > > I should have made clear in my first response — I am one of the PAUSE > admins. > > […] Now, I honestly think that the team in question is so deep underwater > with everything we created (that infrastructure and the management > application we built are perhaps the most successful work of my career, and > they still use it), that they will most likely be thrilled to give this up. > > Anyway, if it is not obvious, please keep this discussion entirely > confidential for now. > > > Just so you’re aware, the PAUSE admins mailing list (modules@perl.org) > has been copied on these emails. There is a public archive of these emails, > but it’s not likely that people will stumble on those archives. If you want > to continue this discussion off that list, just let us know. > > I am putting the priorities of the open source community before those of > my employers here, and so taking a bit of political risk by doing so. I > am, for lack of clearly better judgment, working at MS again right now, so > I would appreciate you NOT sharing this discussion publicly until it is > appropriate to do so. This is also why I am in the perfect spot to broker > the ownership change. > > > I appreciate you doing this. > > reach out to Golden, and inquire about the process here, as I don't think > you will ever see another release if we don't, so I will bring him into > this discussion as well. Please give me about a week to get the internal > feedback on this. > > > Since the code is copyright Morgan Stanley, and was last released from a > Morgan Stanley account, we’ll need some approval from MS to hand over > maintenance. If you can get approval and forward it to us, I can then give > co-maint to Thorsten on all of the MQSeries modules. This doesn’t need a > formal signature, but once you’ve spoken to the right person in MS, you > could send an email to us and cc that person, with a simple email along the > lines of: > > Dear PAUSE Admins, > > I’ve spoken to XX at Morgan Stanley, who is happy for co-maint permissions > to be granted to Thorsten Hirsch on the MQSeries distribution. I’ve copied > XX on this email. > > Phil > > > Given Thorsten’s recent email, it will hopefully be relatively easy to > make a good case for this, as it’s going to result in active maintenance > and bug fixing (I notice there’s at least one patch from Thorsten in the RT > bug queue for the dist). They’re clearly dependent on this module in > production, and have a good CPAN pedigree. > > Let me know if there’s anything else I can do to help. > > Cheers, > Neil > > >
