On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 10:53:52AM +0200, E.T wrote:
> > * Nick <n...@holland-consulting.net> [2010-06-11 12:55]:
> >> If you want low power consumption and low cost, I'd suggest a small
> >> PIII or Celeron based system, hard to beat for the price (usually,
> >> free!).  IF the new, cool stuff has any real power savings, you are
> >> unlikely to ever recoup the initial cost over recycled hardware.
> 
> it is a very bad idea, PIII low performance, low puissance, high hot, high
> electricity. 
 
Any real data for these claims? Nick has posted measurements on this
list many times.

> > that might be (I am not convinced tho) with the electricity price in
> > the US, but certainly isn't universal.

The calculations pretty much added up for me with domestic electricity
prices in Finland and no cooling costs (it's cold enough here anyway
most of the time). Caveat: an inefficient PSU may be worth replacing
with an efficient one. Maybe. This is assuming 5 years service life,
which is not very hard to get with carefully chosen hardware from the
dumpster, but seems to be too much to ask when buying new...

Saving 10 watts will save you (0.01kW * 24h * 365) = 87.6kWh per year.
Realistic savings might be around 20 watts, for a 35-40 watt P3 and
15-20W Atom. Calculate for yourself if it is worth it.

Small-ish, dull looking HP, IBM, Dell and other "name-brand" office PCs
tend to be rather low-power, and quiet too. It takes some time to learn
to dumpster-dive the correct machines, after that you will be able to
find them easily.

> why pay 100dollars/month, 1200dollars/yaer for a server ???. 2 plateform
> Atom = 120 dollars, 1 firewall, 1 serveur web, 1 disc openbsd4.7 = 50
> dollars :). Openbsd is very best performance, is best security. One
> problem: attack sript-kiddie, server datacenter or server home, the same
> thing.   

Since when have recycled machines cost 100 dollars a month?

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