Bryan spake thusly:

> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:34, Stefan Rinkes
> <stefan.rin...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> My name is Stefan Rinkes. I'm from munich in germany and I want to
>> introduce my OpenBSD-Project.
>>
>> In the last months several OpenBSD-Live-Projects have been founded. And
>> I really like them, but I always missed the option to install directly
>> from the LiveCD or usb-stick.
>>
>>
> You can install to a USB stick with the OpenBSD CDs.  What is special
> about yours?

I guess you don't know much about how Linux live CDs work, do you?

> 
>> About 9 months ago I started to combine the LiveCD and the installation
>> process. I named this project "GNOBSD", the combination of OpenBSD and
>> GNOME. After just 3 months I was able to publish "GNOBSD 4.5", the
>> first working OpenBSD Live/Install CD.
>>
>>
> Why add a bloated Desktop like GNOME?  What's wrong with fvwm, or maybe
> even fluxbox (in a pinch)?

FVWM is very dated, fluxbox is not easy for inexperienced users.  
Personally, I dislike fluxbox/openbox/blackbox...

The best "light" desktops for my money are LXDE and XFCE.  But I still 
prefer GNOME (or KDE) to anything else.

Freedom of choice. That's the beauty of Open Source.

> 
>> Since 2 weeks the new release "GNOBSD 4.6" is available. It is based on
>> the release version of OpenBSD 4.6 and can be downloaded as DVD-Iso or
>> image for usb-sticks.
>>
>>
> 
>> After burning the ISO-Image to a DVD or copying the image to an
>> usb-stick, you boot, test and if you like it, install it with the
>> installation-wizard.
>>
>>
> Again, installation from media that I buy to "support OpenBSD" to a USB
> stick is still easier than this...  If I use yours, I am slowly helping
> to doom OpenBSD

That is utter nonsense. Ever heard of PC-BSD? It's been around for a few 
years now and it's based on FreeBSD.  FreeBSD isn't going anywhere 
anytime soon....

> 
>> The GNOBSD-installer is written in ruby and uses the gtk2-toolkit.
>> After the installation have been finished OpenBSD, the window-manager
>> GNOME and some useful packages, e.g. firefox, are installed and ready
>> to use.
>>
>>
> "useful packages" is opinion.  I may see "TeX" as useful...

You're geekier than the average person out there.
> 
>> The website is currently just available in german, I'm working on the
>> english version. But I would really appreciate if some of you download
>> and test it.
>>
>> And of course, give feedback ;)
>>
> .....I was "good cop"

I beg to differ 

> Furthermore, I won't be using your product. 

And anyone else should care because?

>I am afraid we are going in
> a different direction, and I choose to use a product that directly
> supports the developers of OpenBSD, mainly OpenBSD and OpenSSH.  I've
> been a supporter for years, and will continue to help them in anyway I
> can.

It looks like Stefan is an OpenBSD developer now.....

Keep using openBSD as you choose and stop worrying about others are using 
it.  Open Source is all about freedom of choice.

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