Theo does have a point...you gain nothing from tip toeing around these
issues...especially when dealing with people like them 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of
Duncan Patton a Campbell
Sent: 18 May 2009 12:04
To: Theo de Raadt
Cc: chu...@telenix.org; l...@omnitec.net; ad...@bitwise.net; misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: Raid controller?

On Fri, 15 May 2009 20:40:44 -0600 (MDT) Theo de Raadt
<dera...@cvs.openbsd.org> wrote:

> >On Fri, 15 May 2009, Chuck Robey wrote:
> >
> >> I'm currently trying to verify something, because while I know 
> >> makefiles really well, the ones for the FreeBSD kernel are too 
> >> indirect for me, so I can't yet verify about the twa driver.
> >>
> >Doesn't make any difference, 3Ware was abandoned by the project many 
> >years ago due to lack of support. There are many compatible cards out
there:
> >
> >     http://openbsd.org/i386.html#hardware
> >
> >Compare the drivers with the with bioctl compatibility list.
> 
> No kidding.
> 
> If any of the people we talked to at 3ware weren't such LYING BAGS OF 
> HYPOCRITICAL SHIT we'd support their hardware

Hard words, Theo.  Do you think anyone you talked to could actually
understand what you were sayin'?

Dhu

> as well as we support just about everything else in the industry.
> 
> We did not put them into that lofty position of not being supported by 
> OpenBSD.  They put themselves there.  If I was angry about it I might 
> say I hope they are happy with the result, but the fact is I stopped 
> caring about it ages ago.
> 
> You came to this mailing list and you brought up 3ware because you 
> don't know how to use google.

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