On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 03:32:42PM +0200, Daniel Seuffert wrote: > Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: >>> that's up to you. And just in >>> case you are not clever enough to realize yourself: I'm not >>> a fanboy of OpenBSD, Mr. de Raadt, Mr. Vandeputte or anybody >>> else. I am Daniel Seuffert asking two questions. >> >> Daniel, if I may be off topic for a moment, if you are not a Fan of OpenBSD >> Why are you on this list? > > Because Mr. de Raadt accuses Mr. Vandeputte in public for having done > some bad things without any evidence yet. In > contrast to a lot of people on this list reguarly I don't miss asking Mr. > de Raadt where the evidence is, something Mr. Vandeputte's (former) > fellows like Mr. Grabowski should have done. > > Even the guys having received money from Mr. Vandeputte like > Mr. Peereboom fail to tell the public when, how much, for > what and publish the details.
I do not wish to be pulled into this horseshit. I have received exactly 0 $CURRENCY. Every time I have run a donation run every single cent ends up in the appropriate account. There are plenty of sets of eyes on the stuff I have done, contrary to KD85 accounting. I find it more than unfortunate that I am being mentioned by name in Wim's diatribe. > Not wanting to do business with somebody is one thing. > Accusing him like that in public is something completely > different. That's a fact Mr. Dr. Mbeke Bulabula or whatever he likes to > be called cannot handle. > > I know Mr. Vandeputte for years from dozens of events and he > is not guilty until proven to the contrary. That is what people say about the nice neighbor that is a serial killer or a child molester. I thought I knew Wim too but apparently I was wrong. > I would have stept up for any other guy, being from OpenBSD, > another BSD or any other Open Source project. > > If there is no other guy or girl with enough guts? Ok, be it > me. > > >> OpenBSD is a Great product, created by Great people, please respect >> everyone on this mailing list. > > I'm sorry Mr. Fourman, after reviewing my mails in this > thread twice I cannot tell how or when I have not respected > OpenBSD or the the great people here. I have asked two > questions: > > 1. Where is the evidence? Theo provided it; you didn't like it and took Wim's side because "you have known him for years". Besides a website with some random bank statements isn't what I exactly call evidence. That whole story is contorted and makes no sense. > 2. Why doesn't anybody steps up from his former fellows and > defends Mr. Vandeputte after all he has done for them and > OpenBSD itself? Maybe because people feel that their trust was fucked with. I for one pore hours of my time into OpenBSD for the total amount of $0; -$ with costs I incur for the project that unlike some other people I don't charge back to the project. Maybe as a developer it stings to hear that someone close to the project was less than honest. Maybe that felt like taking candy from a baby or stealing a purse from an elderly lady. For outsiders this is just some drama. For insiders this is a violation of trust and a slap to the face. > As far as I can see I was absolutely calm, friendly, even > formal. Can you give me a hint here or in private mail > what you think was disrespective? Let me show you: > 1. Where is the evidence?
