On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 02:36:55PM +0200, frantisek holop wrote: > if wim says, yes, he sent the money i paid for the > cd's to theo, and theo says no he didnt get anything, > whom should i believe?
That's up to you. And there's third option, since you don't necessarily have to believe anything anyone says on the internet. > nobody was accountable to me > up to this point, but just like proving lost mail to > a big isp with mail queue id's, it should be relatively > easy to show paperwork where that money went. So, you have given Wim money for a CD set, and you got a CD set. Where the money ends up eventually is not for you to decide, because a track-record of where the money ends up was not part of the deal you made. There is good reason to hope the money you spent will help the project, and if it does not, it means that there is a problem somewhere. But no one is accountable to you, because you got your CD set. Everything beyond the CD set is about personal expectations, trust, and acting in good faith. And money can't buy those. Friendships can. > you know, > i can't go on private chat with theo to confirm stuff, > you can. Well, I guess you could figure out Theo's email address in no time. The question is rather whether it's worth wasting your time writing to him about this. > it might seem absurd that people are willing to believe > wim's side of the story when theo is the father of all > this and has the greatest motivation to run a tight ship. > it is so maybe because wim offered to publish all accounting > info, while all theo seems to do is cry about how much money > could have been made by selling t-shirts... Just because one side of the story has numbers in it does not make it more credible to me than the other. It all seems to boil down to misunderstandings about agreements not manifested in contracts. Kinda like when you break up with your girlfriend. No one expect the people directly involved can settle such issues, if at all. > i expect we will never know the whole truth, because > it is "none of our business". gentleman's agreements? > it's not worth even a comment. the damage has been done. Yes, damage is done, but venting here will not help to undo it. Stefan
