hmm, on Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 12:37:16PM +0200, Artur Grabowski said that > It's his choice and none of your business. > It's his reasons and none of your business. > It's his choice and none of your business. > It's his choice and none of your business.
<and a thousand more none of your business snipped> how is it none of our business if the 2 sides are bickering about money _we_ sent? and it spilled on a public mailing list? did anyone really expect that we will just watch our toes and keep quiet? on m...@? you know better than that art. if wim says, yes, he sent the money i paid for the cd's to theo, and theo says no he didnt get anything, whom should i believe? nobody was accountable to me up to this point, but just like proving lost mail to a big isp with mail queue id's, it should be relatively easy to show paperwork where that money went. you know, i can't go on private chat with theo to confirm stuff, you can. it might seem absurd that people are willing to believe wim's side of the story when theo is the father of all this and has the greatest motivation to run a tight ship. it is so maybe because wim offered to publish all accounting info, while all theo seems to do is cry about how much money could have been made by selling t-shirts... btw. yes, i think that pulling the plug on wim exactly just as pre-orders were sent was the worst time possible. i even remember thinking i am glad i did not pre-ordered, god knows what will happen to those, because the commit did not deign to comment about that... if wim's flaws were kown for years than he should have been locked out of business right after a release, just when the biggest patches go in. i expect we will never know the whole truth, because it is "none of our business". gentleman's agreements? it's not worth even a comment. the damage has been done. it sure is true that openbsd code quality is high, i can't imagine people hanging around for any other reason. this was the last place where i expected to find this kind of soap. sigh. as if openbsd's image wasn't tarnished enough. just what we needed to make our advocacy job easier, thanks everyone. and tony's mail was excellent btw. well done. -f -- this tagline is identical to the one you are reading.
