On Jan 6, 2008 6:22 PM, Karthik Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Perhaps you're *USING* these 4 files to install the adobe flash player > > on your machine (your example a little bit later in this mail seems to > > indicate you have at least installed it). That's non-free software > > you've installed, but you are free to do so. Then, to you, those four > > small files are not so useless, are they ? > > > > Okay, I didn't install it. But it's like saying 'There is no proof > that the Makefiles won't work unless at least one person has installed > them and verified". In any case, I put forward the argument that the > Makefiles are useless because no single person has reported a > successful install with them. BooHoo! > > > But you're not complaining that these (FREE) files are useless. > > There's almost 5000 ports in the tree now, you are not using them all > > (you're not even using all the ports for free programs) so there's a > > lot more to complain about if that was your gripe. I've made an effort > > to reply to your argument but we were discussing the free-ness of > > OpenBSD, not the usefulness. Please stick to the subject and do not > > try to divert the discussion to unrelated matters. > > No, i'm talking about the usefulness of your supposedly free (and > useful) makefiles in installing nonfree software. > > > > > Here's a nice trick. On any OpenBSD system simply do the following : > > > > ftp http://tinyurl.com/83kyc > > > > Have you performed the above step too? Shame on you for using > Microsoft PowerPoint .. or whatever it is you people use. > > > Et voila ! You now have non-free software on your system. It is the > > Microsoft PowerPoint Viewer (it's gratis (doesn't cost money) but it's > > not open source). You did this with free software (ftp from OpenBSD) ! > > Ohnoes ! That software (OpenBSD ftp) isn't free, I can use it to > > download non-free software ! > > > > Boohoo. Now explain again how this makes OpenBSD any less free. > > > > After your 'make install' in /usr/ports/www/opera-flashplugin, *YOU* > > have installed libflashplayer.so on your system. Why does that make > > OpenBSD any less free ? > > > > Like I already replied to someone: They put a cigarette pack in > OpenBSD with the warning: 'Smoking causes Cancer'. They say it's there > but you're not supposed to smoke it. It's not going to harm you unless > you smoke it. Do you see the analogy?
Your analogy needs work. Its more like saying "here is 20 bucks. You can spend it on a cigarette IF YOU CHOOSE to. Smocking causes Cancer" > > -- > Karthik > http://guilt.bafsoft.net > Dusty
