> @others: stop picking on SUN and Java. It's actually a nice language  
> and going to be GPL software very soon, so I guess there will be an  
> option for binary packages and other nice stuff soon.

Java is a shitshow, it isn't a "nice" language.  Stop defending Sun and their
ridiculous licenses.  The day Sun shows up as a real player in the open source
world this could be justified.  For now they are just another closed vendor.

You don't get a cookie for trying or pretending.

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