---- Original message ----
>Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 10:05:14 +0900
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mathieu Sauve-Frankel)  
>Subject: Re: ipsec vpn  
>To: Jacob Yocom-Piatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: misc@openbsd.org
>
>> M$ is notoriously crappy when it comes to VPN software, IMO. openvpn is 
>> probably
>
>I really wish people would stop advocating this garbage on our mailing lists.
>

i really wish people wouldn't be such pricks on misc@ ...

given a completely free hand, i would NEVER use windows machines for anything
remotely important. however, i have been forced to interoperate with M$ users
who could not get the "native" IPsec to work to their satisfaction and openvpn
is a viable solution in this case.

a solution involving M$, is IMO no solution at all, merely another example of
turd polishing. since many peoples' brains are too limited in their flexibility,
turd polishing is a painful reality when dealing with diverse computer users.

>-- 
>Mathieu Sauve-Frankel

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