On Sunday 01 October 2006 12:14, Theo de Raadt wrote: > I believe that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is another person who > is involved. > > These people will try to tell you that "there are parts of the > firmware that Intel does not own". They'll say that positively about > two of the firmwares, and want you believe that is the case for all > three. Then you can read the distribution agreement that they want > open source vendors to sign, because I just can't figure out how to > tie "Intel does not own all of the stuff in the firmware" to "we > must take these specific rights that we list away from you".
Hello Theo (and all the list users). You know, this has been an ongoing issue for years. Keeps on coming up on the list every 3 or 4 months and the result is the same. As far as I am concerned, yes we can email and complain, but they are so arrogant that nothing will change. Why don'y we just :- 1) Not buy any more intel products 2) List products from manufacturers that do help us 3) Tell everyone ref 1) and 2) 4) Instead of continuing emailing intel, email all the other opensource projects sharing the experience and suggest to them that they follow the same as above ie. 1), 2) and 3). 5) yes, people can still email intel, but just like adaptek, personally, I think it's a waste of time. they are too big and too 'full of themselves' to care. There are plenty of competing products around. Why should we beat ourselves up on this. I'm a consumer (whether it is business or personal is irrelevent). I pay for products. I can take my business, and my money, elsewhere. I want to know from the OpenBSD community, which products are best supported, which are the best (less cpu load, more bandwidth ie. more efficient etc.). I am really not interested in intel, adaptek and their games anymore. I am interested in SATA syatems for low-level use and SAS (Serial attached SCSI) for high level use using OpenBSD and other open systems so I want to know about good and bad motherboards, RAID cards, hard drives etc. I'm surprised the drivers haven't been withdrawn from the CVS yet. Time to move on.... -- Regards...Martin
