On Sun, 2 Jul 2006 18:55:46 -0400, Jim Razmus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>* Nick Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060702 15:58]: >> On 7/1/06, J.C. Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 12:54:14 +0300, "Alexey E. Suslikov" >> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >>Patent jeopardizes IETF syslog standard. Read here >> >>http://trends.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/28/2320232 >> > >> >This sucks. It's no different than what Cisco did with their HSRP patent >> >to try to kill off VRRP. The Huawei IPR claim to the IETF is nearly >> >identical to the crap Cisco put out years ago in their IPR claim. >> > >> >https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/ipr_detail_show.cgi?ipr_id=724 >> > >> >The end result is we have CARP, a patent busting implementation that is >> >far better than either of the originals... >> > >> >Will they never learn? >> > >> >Anyone in the mood for "slog" ? >> >> Isn't syslog just like... send random data on port 514 to whoever and >> they record it? How can you possibly patent that? That would be like >> patenting talking. >> >> -Nick >> > >I hold the patent on talking. Watch for a battery of law suits >forthcoming. > >Sorry, couldn't resist. Laugh people. > >Jim Jim, I really wish I could laugh about it... -I put my time and effort into getting the VRRP crap settled Cisco (i.e. Robert Bar), so we could just use a "standard" protocol -and no, I'm not the only human being around here that wasted their time and effort on this particular problem. Think about the time/effort/planing the developers put into making CARP such that it gets around the Cisco patent... Don't misunderstand me, CARP is an amazingly innovative and extremely useful implementation of a redundancy protocol. It's technically better than HSRP or any of the versions of VRRP but the problems till stands that it is not an "official" protocol, which simply means adoption and inter operability will suffer to some degree. Frivolous patents have a cost to those who fight them. jcr -- Free, Open Source CAD, CAM and EDA Tools http://www.DesignTools.org