Tobias Weisserth wrote: > > Hi, > > On Saturday, 17. June 2006 18:36, Deanna Phillips wrote: > ... > > As I see it, this is an example of working _against_ a project > > instead of with and for it. A personal NIH syndrome, if you > > will. It's not just some Linux thing he put together that also > > works here. Look at his quote: "package-manger for OpenBSD." > > and the hidden subtext: "With -MY- name on it!"
Oh yes. Any time. I would love your YOU to have to dance to MY tune. It's not just the code, it's swallowing everything else (all sorts of presuppositions, prerequisites, etc) that go into it. Watch any merger with different corporate cultures. Eventually one of them will crush the other. A lot of things are easy to (almost) start. (fold when they hit a hard spot) There are lots of bright ideas (if somebody else does all the heavy lifting) I imagine the developers are stretched pretty thin. Yet another (yacc?) quarter-baked idea (until proven otherwise) just adds noise. There is an acceptable rate for such. (Fresh crop of ...) When that rate is exceeded, somebody reacts. > > I don't see any harm in what he does. Is he forcing you to use > his software? > No. So what's the harm? Why the hostility? Errrrrr ... I assure you, this list is NOT hostile. They haven't kicked me out (yet at least). I've barely even ever gotten an unkind word. (And I can and do like to play on the edges) In fact I'd have to say this list is downright friendly. > > And concerning the hidden subtext: isn't that part of the reason OpenBSD > exists after all? I guess we would be using NetBSD instead then. I suspect there's a difference (as in essence, raison d'etre, sine qua non level stuff) between the OpenBSD split and another attept at a package manager. Fundamental philosophy difference, and I can make a good argument that that difference by itself is really difference between ObenBSD and Microsoft security. (Microsoft security can be accurately measured by five-cent compromised machines) > > I haven't taken a look at his software but in general I welcome > any addition > to the choices there already are. What I don't welcome is this hostile > environment on this list. I have too many thing I NEED to look at. More noise is not really an asset. Choice is good, but. Anything different has to be better just to break even with being different. (Sometimes substantially better) (NIH is actually a survival tactic for those of us who did invent it here) > This is not the spirit I'm used to when getting > involved with Open Source projects. It's his freedom to create > things, it's > his freedom to announce such stuff here. I can't understand the lack of > respect. Funny thing, respect. Any place it means anything, you have to earn it. Any place it means anything, you cannot earn it easily. Me, I'm mostly a noisy windbag, but I DO understand where they are coming from. > > regards, > Tobias W.
