On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:10:48 +0200, Marc Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>* Han Boetes wrote:
>
>> I've been working for quite some time now on an alternative
>> package-manager for OpenBSD, and since things start working rather
>> fine now I think it's time to let you guys know.
>
>this is about the most idiotic wast of time I ever heard of.  what is
>wrong with our own package tools, which at least to very dedicated and
>bright people work on?
>
>what's next?  hls?  han's own version of ls?  hcat?

The *only* point you could successfully argue against Han's work is the
possible dilution of results by the division of effort. The result of
him working with other developers on the existing ports/package system
may, or may not, result in a better over-all system.

None the less, Han is free to work on whatever he wants. Han has been
kind enough to share his efforts with you and everyone but instead of
saying thanks, you tell him is work is an "idiotic waste of time."
-Would you tell Theo his effort were an "idiotic waste of time" when he
started OpenBSD? Would you say that to Henning when he started OpenBGPd?
What about the start of pf, OpenNTPD, all various arch porting efforts,
all the various hardware support efforts and all the other countless
initial starts?

Sure there are other well tested tools to deal with ports and packages
but did you even stop to think there just might be a good idea or two
tucked away inside Han's work? Han has the right to explore and
experiment with his own ideas. Maybe one of his good ideas of his might
eventually get transplanted or transformed into code you use on a daily
basis. If that happens are you still going to call his efforts an
"idiotic waste of time?" 

Even experiments that completely "fail" still have great value. If they
didn't we'd still be looking for the luminiferous aether...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminiferous_aether
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelson-Morley_experiment

JCR


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