Neat
On 9/25/23 02:03, Christoff Humphries wrote:
The FAQ is nice, but there are also folks out there that have written
some additional handy resources, such as:
- https://www.k58.uk/openbsd.html (on installing and getting XFCE
and Firefox working, including changes to staff group to increase
allowed resource limits, etc)
- https://www.openbsdhandbook.com/ (howtos on many things)
-- including https://www.openbsdhandbook.com/services/webserver/ssl/
(how to setup httpd with acme-client with multiple domains)
Note that after you install packages via pkg_add, there may be a
note displayed telling you to read a file. Within that file is
important information you should know. They're usually in the
/usr/local/share/doc/pkg-readmes directory and you should read them.
For Firefox in particular it will tell you things you may want to
do to get the behavior you're used to. See:
https://github.com/openbsd/ports/blob/master/www/mozilla-firefox/pkg/README
And for XFCE:
https://github.com/openbsd/ports/blob/master/meta/xfce/pkg/README-main
------- Original Message -------
On Sunday, September 24th, 2023 at 11:34 PM, Jean-François Simon
<jfsimon1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Eric,
You'll find how to install OpenBSD following FAQ pretty easily.
After install, you'll be able to add packages (install software) with a
simple internet connection.
You'd have to install for example XFCE, Thunderbird, Firefox, Chromium.
OpenBSD base install does includes a set of GUI and packages, but not a
full fledged OS, but that's easy to do and above recommended packages
should do well.
Forget about searches, at this point you can easily start install base
OS, packages, if needed get help on mail list or IRC, first go to the
man and FAQ on website, they provide a path to get you up and running no
difficulty.
Regards
Jean-François
On 9/12/23 08:21, Eric Demer wrote:
(I am considering getting a laptop with openBSD, but have
not yet done so, which is why I can't easily check on my own.)
Does openBSD come with a web browser?
The "the FAQ and" parts of https://www.openbsd.org/mail.html
suggest that it does, but I haven't found any more
detail regarding this at https://www.openbsd.org/ .
Quite frankly, if you're incapable of using one, I'd steer clear.
The answer to this is the result of a very basic web search.
Cheers!
Perhaps I should steer clear anyway, but what's probably
the reason I didn't find that answer may change things.
Specifically, do you find that information with a basic web search
while using none of Stackexchange , Reddit , Youtube , Google ?
For the reasons explained in the following paragraphs, I am
not willing to use those four sites. I still got into results saying
that one can easily install Firefox on openBSD, and remember at
least one result saying that some people use Lynx on it, but those
didn't address whether there's one that comes already installed.
I did go into results saying that one can easily install
Firefox on openBSD, and remember at least one result saying
that some people use Lynx on it, but those didn't
address whether there's one that comes already installed.
The other search results (from using duckduckgo) I found
that mentioned openBSD - as opposed to just freeBSD -
were all from stackexchange and reddit and youtube.
I left Stackexchange when it adopted Terms according to which,
them changing those terms other than the arbitration clause
as I am scrolling a page on their site would result in
me being bound by whatever they changed the Terms to.
Since the trigger for those Terms was something like,
using their Network in any way, I have never intentionally
gone back there, and have left immediately when I've
accidentally when I've accidentally gone back there.
(In particular, if they no longer have
such Terms then I don't know that.)
My brief search for Reddit's Terms brought up Reddit
result previews suggesting that Reddit's Terms are also
such that according to them, using their site to view
their terms would constitute acceptance of those terms.
Furthermore, according to
https://github.com/OpenTermsArchive/contrib-versions
/blob/main/Reddit/Terms%20of%20Service.md
, the changes provision in Reddit's Terms manages
to be even worse than that of Stackexchange's Terms:
Its change-acceptance is from access to or use of "the Services on or
after the Effective Date of the revised Terms", and it does not say
the Effective Date can't be before the revised Terms were posted.
Youtube's Terms are better, but (0) it's Google, and
(1) the "launch a new product or feature" exception is
merely a timing restriction: It's not limited to changes
that have anything else to do with the new product or feature.
Google's Terms seem to have the same changes provision.
Eric Demer
