Theo de Raadt wrote in
 <74991.1652133...@cvs.openbsd.org>:
 |I looked very closely, it started like this
 |
 |  "Just a rant"
 |
 |And I knew the email was coming from a self-centered individual who is
 |unhappy with the entirely volunteer work done by others, yet not unhappy
 |enough to quit OpenBSD and switch to another operating sytem where
 |there will be similar unhappiness because those other systems also won't
 |do precisely what you want.
You could have adjusted this a bit after pasting it.  ..mumble..

 |Your email is not appropriate.  If you don't like OpenBSD, use something

Yes that is true, i really do apologise for the yelling.
(I do recognize that some people can make a living from OpenBSD.)

 |else, because noone deserves an email which starts with those 3 words
 |you chose, and the following complaint is such horseshit in a world
 |where disk drives are cheap.  I started OpenBSD a quarter of a century

Oh i have 5GB download per 28 days, with max of ~2.7 MB/sec, but
often less.  The next two weeks practically nothing now, there are
so many wars, you do not know where to look first.

 |ago by spending $3500 for a 300MB drive and ate noodles and tuna for

By then i also ate tuna.  I apologise very, very much.  Even our
Russian grocery here had to increase prices by 50 percent now,
peas 1,79€/800G, buckwheat 2,89€/800G, and they use a new recipe
for the ice!  That is a real shame.  Rice and peas i mean, add
fish sauce and a Vietcong would have been your life long friend.
The times they are a-ch-ch-changing.
The Italiens at least kill the tuna by hand, once a year, in that
terrible slaughter session, "Mattanza".  That is minimal respect
compared to artificial robotic slaughter experience.  Maybe.

 |many months to make up for that, and we do not live in a world where you
 |get to moan about 55MB, relative to whatever it takes to ease the compli\
 |cate
 |work undertaken by the ports developers.

I do not even know whether it is still true, i could not find the
"not installed" i remembered when grepping infrastructure/.
It expands to quite a bit more, the OpenBSD VM ended up as a 1.1GB
image (kernel relink objects removed).

It actually came out like 2.5GB first (!; no games etc.), so
i created a second disk and copied over, leaving off the relink
package.  This was quite an experience, i thought about sending
a patch to tech@ that shows up the sequence

  fdisk -iy /dev/rsd1c
  disklabel -F xx -E /dev/sd1c
  newfs /dev/rsd1c
  installboot -r XROOT /dev/rsd1a
  ...copy...

in one of the manual pages of the mentioned programs, i had to
read FAQ on the web to get this together.
Especially "installboot -r", when called from the new volume
mounted to /mnt, did not do what i thought or could deduce from my
(fast, superficial) glance at the manual, it complained about
a readlink failure if i recall correctly (maybe empty path;
unfortunately my tmux history of the ncurses qemu output is
sketchy, i think some terminal sequences cause clearance at times,
for example i have

                  starting RPC daemons:.
                  savecore: no core dump
                  checking quotas: done.
                  clearing /tmp
So that from boot still
                  o-0701# installboot -v -r /dev/sd
This must be later, but without meaning
                  8025728d100b2db6.a / ffs rw,wxallowed 1 1
And this is a cat of the generated file

Again i am wasting your time only, of course).

 |In short, Steffen, you need to shut up.

Yeah.  Well i am from Hessen and back when we Germans were not
cloned Americans but Germanen the name of our tribe here was
Chatten, and i am afraid this could ring a bell, ne?  I do have
watched interviews with you and i know you are prowd of your
sensors ('wish i had some, but you know the ones sit at the front
and the others in the back, and so one group just had bad luck).
But our neighbours from Baden-Württemberg produced a nice animated
film of Chatten i think twenty years ago[1], if you like sensors
mayby this could be a nice 5 minute fun.  (Sufficient download
provided.)  Warning: people named "Tucker" should be careful.
"Hessi James"[1] of Badesalz, voila.

  [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akfz5Fw-pZI&vl=de

 |Steffen Nurpmeso <stef...@sdaoden.eu> wrote:

Scary top posting everywhere.  At least on OpenBSD people seem to
be free enough to no only inject lots of exhaust in toposphere or
where those fly, but also can freely choose their email client and
use plain-text only, which on other BSDs seems to get rare, maybe
$DAYJOB imposed, of course.  All those nice HTML mails.

Ciao.

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,                The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter           he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

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