On Tue, Jan 07, 2020 at 02:47:02PM +0000, cho...@jtan.com wrote:
> Hamd writes:
> > It's 2020 and it's -still- sad to see OpenBSD -still- has the
> > ... lists full of the uninteresting type of wine and that their
> > twitterings -still- don't include any code.
> 
> Yes. Yes it is.
> 
> Can't say much for the performance of a suite of servers which have
> all been taken down to handle the security threat du jour.

Well, that's kind of ridiculous, that's not generally how threats are
remediated in the real world.

If you take a server down for 15 minutes to apply patches to Insecure-
But-ZippyBSD, once a week, you get 99.85% uptime and presumably it is
performing lots faster during that 99.85%, but admittedly performs at 
zero during the patch process.  Redundancy can cover that in many
cases.

A different argument could be that if you require a particular level of
performance, and you have to deploy more compute resources to get it,
that increases capex and opex, and the end result is a greater level of
e-waste down the road, and perhaps a greater amount of pollution if the
power is generated from "bad" sources.

In reality, when you dig down, often you find that there's another
reason for the issue.  I was recently trying to substitute libressl
into an openssl environment.  Performance tanked.  Some checking
showed the speed of "speed -evp aes-256-gcm" was way off.  It looked 
to me like it was an issue with not using AES-NI.  I'm not going to
blame libressl for that, I just lacked the time to do a deep dive on
it to figure out what was (hopefully!) configured wrong.  Probably
something with ia32cap or whatever the libressl equivalent is.

... JG
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Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net
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democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"-Asimov

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