> I don't need a special need case. I have already configured the system > I need, but it would have been nice to know about these configuration > options earlier.
Just curious, if you have already a configured system why you then complain about things like that ? The entry point for OpenBSD is RTFM (Read The Fucking Manual). I pointed you to 2 links with informations about things you want which are there already for some years. Counter question, instead of complaining - do you run a website or wiki to provide useful informations for new users ... or are you doing other things ? > Anyway, my point is that OpenBSD doesn't need to be a research OS as > Theo has stated. The point is, OpenBSD is Theo and vice versa. Theo created that, what this community wants and needs. > It could have some minor tweaks to the install that undoubtedly > could persuade users to continue. The main problem is, many people are not interested to read informations or to spend money for books and so on. If people had problems, they could ask. > But maybe that is the mindset of the OpenBSD hacker. Make it hard > and difficult for everybody that doesn't want to spend their life > away searching for commands they don't know about. Comeon, I am also a normal user and have a working system with full disk encryption. So, what is so difficult ? > If my Asus laptop, which I figured out at the time needed to disable > a configuration option, would have accepted feeebsd, I suspect I > would have gone with them. Not because they had more up to date > software systems like kde, but because their system doesn't put up a > fight against the user and doesn't self-destruct any time it needs to > fsck: By Default. I started with Linux and continued with FreeBSD and experienced this things there. It is really a pain in the ass to get in FreeBSD a console with german umlauts - which I had in OpenBSD by default after the install. I run OpenBSD for round 8 months with breaks. In this time I hade no fsck and 1 kernel panic which was my fault. The main point is, noone force people to use OpenBSD ... as Theo would say, if it is not for you, choose another operating system. The rest of the discussion is useless but, as more as I read at mics@ I understand, why developers really get pissed-off from time to time.