On 19/10/15 23:11  Nick Holland wrote:
> ... or ...
> 
> you can look at the big picture and realize...
> 1) you probably aren't a developer.
> 2) you probably haven't seen a core dump.

That's all very nice, but sometimes you don't get to pick your battles,
they come and pick you.

> and thus, I'll suggest you just don't worry about it.  IF you manage to
> find a way to panic your machine, drop the memory waaaay down to 2G or
> so, reproduce it and worry about a 2G core dump.

Yes, if the bugger is easy to reprduce thats fine.
Some are.
Some are not.

> And -- even if you do have a system panic, very often developers can
> make sense out of what went wrong from the output of the debugger's
> trace and ps commands, rather than having to dig through an entire core
> dump.  This is always what they ask for FIRST.

Exactly.
So how do you extract this information from a modern laptop without
serial?

tilo

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