On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Paolo Aglialoro <paol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Theo, > > I respect you as a person and I respect your work. > > This said, I can also tell you that, after a few years reading misc@, > there > is still one thing that I do not understand about your "colourful" answers > to several mails. > > Not all the people who run obsd can, for various personal reasons of their > own, contribute as a coder. But they still can contribute as users, > reporting problems or making suggestions. This does not necessarily mean > they "order" you what to do or not to do, don't take it personally. They > just love to run obsd, so they try to do their best. My grandpa taught me > that when people don't tell you things it's because they just don't care > anymore. > > With their detailed answers, for instance, Stuart, Giancarlo and Ingo > showed attention to my problem as a user, analyzing things just on a > logical viewpoint. I perfectly accept their polite way of answering. > > Here nobody was making making a wishlist for obsd like "I want zfs, xfs, > ext4, pf multicore, etc.". The point is that here, often, the moment you > got used to a tool, the day after it's gone/modified. This creates > frustration in the average user, like me. > Uhm, excuse me, I definitely want all of those things. If I don't get them right now I'll stomp my feet and cry until I do! > Of course we're still a pkg_add away but, hey, isn't denying to consider > that most people will keep using that tool a contradiction? Yes, base will > be pure and safe, but at the same time it will diminish functionality, > depending more and more from packages. > > This said, this is your OS, delete everything you like! > > Just be respectful, please. > This discussion started off with disrespect to the project's developers and continued throughout much of it. Respect is something to be earned, don't expect to get it for free. -Gene > > Il 05/mar/2015 21:43 "Theo de Raadt" <dera...@cvs.openbsd.org> ha scritto: > > > > >So it looks like that, till some months ago, everybody here was on the > > >wrong OS and risking their lives, as lynx was in base! > > > > Such hyperbole! Such drama! > > > > Impressive. > > > > If you don't like our software, there are other options out there for > > you to use. In the end, it is our software, and we get to make our own > > choices. > > > > That is fair. People who get to make choices, tend to care, and tend to > > try to make things better for themselves and everyone, according to a > > narrow definition, but there you have it. No hyperbole or drama needed. > > > > You can run something else, Sir.