On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Paolo Aglialoro <paol...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Theo,
>
> I respect you as a person and I respect your work.
>
> This said, I can also tell you that, after a few years reading misc@,
> there
> is still one thing that I do not understand about your "colourful" answers
> to several mails.
>
> Not all the people who run obsd can, for various personal reasons of their
> own, contribute as a coder. But they still can contribute as users,
> reporting problems or making suggestions. This does not necessarily mean
> they "order" you what to do or not to do, don't take it personally. They
> just love to run obsd, so they try to do their best. My grandpa taught me
> that when people don't tell you things it's because they just don't care
> anymore.
>
> With their detailed answers, for instance, Stuart, Giancarlo and Ingo
> showed attention to my problem as a user, analyzing things just on a
> logical viewpoint. I perfectly accept their polite way of answering.
>
> Here nobody was making making a wishlist for obsd like "I want zfs, xfs,
> ext4, pf multicore, etc.". The point is that here, often, the moment you
> got used to a tool, the day after it's gone/modified. This creates
> frustration in the average user, like me.
>

Uhm, excuse me, I definitely want all of those things.

If I don't get them right now I'll stomp my feet and cry until I do!


> Of course we're still a pkg_add away but, hey, isn't denying to consider
> that most people will keep using that tool a contradiction? Yes, base will
> be pure and safe, but at the same time it will diminish functionality,
> depending more and more from packages.
>
> This said, this is your OS, delete everything you like!
>
> Just be respectful, please.
>

This discussion started off with disrespect to the project's developers and
continued throughout much of it.

Respect is something to be earned, don't expect to get it for free.

-Gene


>
> Il 05/mar/2015 21:43 "Theo de Raadt" <dera...@cvs.openbsd.org> ha scritto:
> >
> > >So it looks like that, till some months ago, everybody here was on the
> > >wrong OS and risking their lives, as lynx was in base!
> >
> > Such hyperbole!  Such drama!
> >
> > Impressive.
> >
> > If you don't like our software, there are other options out there for
> > you to use.  In the end, it is our software, and we get to make our own
> > choices.
> >
> > That is fair.  People who get to make choices, tend to care, and tend to
> > try to make things better for themselves and everyone, according to a
> > narrow definition, but there you have it.  No hyperbole or drama needed.
> >
> > You can run something else, Sir.

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