Tim Nelson <tnelson () rockbochs ! com> > Fantastic points, I'd love to hear more, from both sides.
I'll blink. This is a big deal ... but it's not specific to OpenBSD and further, this is not news. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber-hose_cryptanalysis This discussion is pertinent on any forum. Hence here where the focus is tight and anecdotally anti-turbo-legal ... it's bound to be off topic. Still, it's about the fourth and perhaps the fifth but not the first and definitely not the second ... While I don't have the protection afforded by the bill of rights (the US one not the englsh one), the fourth is understood where habeus corpus rules, i.e. those of us in "free societies". This is relevant but, ranting about the "amendments" to a global crowd, while allowed by the first, is hot air. I have no first nor second sir ... So, relevant but poorly phrased. Anything else? Sure. Where we have the rule of law, the plan is to stand up for yourself, in law (i.e. the fourth if that's what you've got) and get some case law under your belt. You've got to stand up for yourself ... Everything else is hot air or text (i.e. hot air). The US is the light on the hill. Stand up for yourself. Use the law. The constitution if that's all you've got. Talking about it is one thing. DHS told me I had to hand over my password and I did ... I'm angry they violated my rights. That's neither precedent nor threadworthy.
