On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 7:46 PM, J Sisson <sisso...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Juan Miscaro <jmisc...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 7 July 2011 15:06, jirib <ji...@devio.us> wrote: >> >> Are you kidding? Ubuntu? Where installed daemons are running by default, >> > where there is no command to disable shitty upstart daemons? >> >> Which daemons are those again? >> >> apt-get install <some_insecure_daemon> > > Oh look, <some_unsecure_daemon> is running before I have a chance to > configure it and lock it down the way I see fit. B <sarcasm>Good thing we all > know those Ubuntu/Debian guys are so damned smart and all...</sarcasm> >
why would you install a daemon and not run it? how is it any different than X listening on localhost by default in obsd? if you install a daemon in debian/ubuntu and it listens on 0.0.0.0 by default, the package isn't following distro policy