> Once information on a digital media has been overwritten, it cannot be
> recreated/restored in any lab. All this talk about electron microscopes
> and overwriting in multiple passes is just a load of crap derived from
> an old DoD standard. It has no practical meaning. One overwrite is
> enough. Please let this ugly rumour die :)

That is not the case. On magnetic drives, the field can spread beyond
the region
written to by the drive heads, and can be read by a suitably equipped
lab. Reports
on how effective this is and what methods can be used to destroy the data vary, 
but it's safe (or rather, it's necessary) to assume intelligence
agencies or big
companies can do stuff we don't know about.

Besides, drives can transparently reassign sectors that go bad, and no mere dd 
can get to those. If 'they' can take apart the drive or get suitable
firmware for it,
they can certainly read all the sectors. Even if you assume
overwritten data can
not be recovered, you would still need to wipe these sectors.

On 6/1/05, Diana Eichert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> place drive in front of dirt embankment
> position yourself ~100'/30M (you want to get some practice in don't
> you?)from the target, hrrrm, drive.
> begin target practice, hrrrm, drive cleaning, until drive is thoroughly
> destroyed, hrrrm, cleaned.
> retrieve spent brass ( you do reload don't you?), hrrrm, drive cleaning
> materials

Rendering the drive media unreadable to a standard drive won't
necessarily render
it unreadable to determined forensic annalysis. It requires high
temperatures. If you have information valuable enough to spend that
kind of money to recover, then the cost of losing the use of a drive
is trivial.

I don't advocate thermite or an oxy torch to prevent 'them' from
getting their hands on my MP3 collection. I wouldn't take the trouble
to destroy any of my hard drives because I don't have anything worth
spending that kind of money to recover.

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