On 2/5/2013 9:58 AM, Christopher Brooks wrote:
> None of these are ecl licensed.
> 
> Why can't there just be many agents? Why don't we just quit determining
> minimum hardware, and instead just indicate hardware that people have
> successfully used with the codebase?

There's nothing saying people can't still use the reference, just that
there's no one on our side ensuring that it's up to date.  The issue
with not determining minimum hardware is that then people will attempt
to use the CA on underpowered hardware (atom boxes, and mac minis come
to mind) and then yell at us when it doesn't work because we haven't
determined the minimum spec.  And there has been lots of success with
other, non-spec hardware, but I have yet to see any of it put into the
lists we already have on the wiki...

> I don't see a good reason to quit using the reference code and suggest a
> single vended solution instead. Some are still using the reference code
> without issue, and while it isn't evolving quickly that isn't preventing
> the core from evolving. ..

The biggest reason is time.  We have a limited pool of developer time
available, and if those two devs supporting the CA could be better spent
elsewhere then it doesn't make sense to keep supporting the reference CA.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like dropping the reference CA.  But I also
don't like that Adam spends his 20% working on CA bugs related to Ubuntu
screwing around with package names and removing dependencies when he
could be working on something that affects more of the project.  And
from talking to people at the unconference, there are very very few
institutions that even consider the reference build when talking about
rolling out CAs.

G

> Chris
> 
> 
> Ruediger Rolf <rr...@uni-osnabrueck.de> wrote:
> 
>     We in Osnabrück have an LGPL licensed alternative too [1], but I did
>     not mention it in this context as we use a different technology
>     stack (Windows) and our project is not complete in features yet (no
>     scheduling i.e.) and not as mature as the Galicaster.
> 
>     And maybe even other open source options may appear in the future?
> 
>     Rüdiger
> 
>     [1] http://zentrum.virtuos.uos.de/therec/#
> 
>     Am 05.02.2013 16:48, schrieb Stuart Phillipson:
>>
>>     On 5 Feb 2013, at 15:15, Ruediger Rolf <rr...@uni-osnabrueck.de
>>     <mailto:rr...@uni-osnabrueck.de>> wrote:
>>
>>>     Especially Teltek's Galicaster is an valid alternative to the
>>>     reference Capture Agent as it has an open source license too and
>>>     works on very similar hardware.
>>
>>     I'd agree with this statement. When we were looking at capture
>>     agents we either wanted an off the self product for simplicity or
>>     something we could customise to our environment. We ended up going
>>     for customisation and Galicaster vs the reference agent didn't
>>     even get off the paper stage. Galicaster was and is evolving so
>>     much more rapidly, it's a bit more user friendly to noobs and
>>     seems to have a much more active community. 
>>
>>     That said I'm wondering how Teltek would feel about being the only
>>     future FOSS offering on the capture agent seen?
>>
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