Hi Hari, > On May 20, 2024, at 1:56 AM, hari kumar via groups.io > <hari6.kumar=gmail....@groups.io> wrote: > > Coincidentally (Or not! Of course all Leftists are following this at least to > some extent) - today, Michael Roberts on his blog - carries a piece on the > same general area, and focusing on the Chinese state's investment in higher > tech infra-structure. It refers back - correctly - to the chip wars. > He also refers to the point that I was making in my original note to you > Mark, but with much more profundity of course! I knew of, but could not be > bothered to search out the Engels points where he talks about the hypocrisy > of the British bourgeoisie on tariffs. But Engels is more interesting than > either I or even Michael Roberts! > > > In any case - Michael Roberts at: > https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2024/05/20/tariffs-technology-and-industrial-policy/
Michael Roberts' essay describes it but doesn't offer a clue about to fight globalism, which is what I was posting about. That's a general problem on the left, I think. At least the British Labour Party was split on Brexit and ignored the economic fact that closest neighbors are the most important trading partners. China Inc. is not an important trading partner but was created over the past half century by neoliberal US to undercut the power of US workers. I don't see how allowing a flood of $14k electric vehicles into the US is any act of international working class solidarity. For one thing, Chinese prices do not take account of the environmental costs of producing the products. And chip production uses more electricity than chip operation. Roberts' charts and projections don't consider environmental destruction, which is likely to change the curves. I have no problem with doubling their price of $14k EVs to address the environmental damage done to the planet in a manufacturing powerhouse that has much weaker pollution laws than in the US and no independent unions protecting their workers. Otherwise, the reward for environmental protections and unionization is to be put out of business by foreign manufacturers that face neither. Mark -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#30455): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/30455 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/106146595/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: marxmail+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/8674936/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-