It seems , in this group , there is no problem that in all those socialist 
countries, countries were run by dictators, as Stalin, Tito, Castro where any 
opposition or critique was not possible. Here I am talking of critique from the 
left position, from people who belonged to the same movement, but they were 
removed from their positions when they did not agree with their leader. No 
problem that Castro was replaced by his brother, because he did not trust to 
anybody else. The same was with Tito who was a leader for life because he did 
not trust anybody, as all other leaders in so-called socialist countries which 
could be replaced only when they died. There was no  freedom of thoughts in any 
of those so-called socialist countries, and you can still call them socialist. 
As one Marxist from Yugoslavia said there was  no S of socialism in any of 
those countries. Yes they have free education and free health care, but they 
did not have freedom of thoughts and in some of them one of the main feelings 
was fear to say something freely, which I witnessed that when I visited them. 
You believe that American workers will accept to replace their freedom, how 
much that is illusory, with free health care and free education  and some 
parties apparatchiks will decide about their lives, as what happened in those 
so-called socialist countries you are taking as example from where we can learn 
something. Free education  and free health care and many other basic services 
should be free . And that was possible and realistic to have now and was always 
part of socialist movement from Marx and before him and Cuba, Soviet Union have 
nothing to do with Marx. If you continue taking examples and role models as 
Castro or Lenin you will stay a marginal group as you are now, and any Mass 
party will not be inspired by you.


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