On 2024-07-09, Ralph Seichter via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> wrote:
> * Philip Paeps via mailop:
>
>> With such low volume, you will really struggle to get email delivered
>> to the larger mailbox providers, whose filtering is largely based on
>> reputation. It's almost impossible to build up (and maintain) a
>> reputation unless you can manage at least O(hundreds) of messages to
>> them per day.
>
> I disagree, because I have never struggled to get mail from my servers
> delivered to Google, Microsoft, etc.  Telekom appears to soft-block
> unfamiliar mail servers by default, and I had to notify them whenever
> a new server went online, but that was a one-time measure for each
> individual server. Call it a minor nuisance.

Similarly. I've been running my own mailserver for personal, family
and club domains (including a mailing list of several hundred at one
point) for 20 years or so. In the early days, there were no problems;
nowadays if I change server (I run one primary and two backups,
changin the provider only if one goes bust or becomes useless, so
changes are rare) I have to go through Microsoft's hoops (and
t-online, but they're more trouble than it's worth usually), but I
haven't run into my problem.

One of my users forwards all their mail to gmail, including the spam,
so sometimes I get rate-limited by gmail, but who cares.

(Unlike most people on this list, I do not think it is a provider's
job to censor people's email. Users should be able to see their spam
if they wish. I'm slightly curious about spam volumes - in my incoming
personal mail, last time I checked about 75% of it was spam. Is that
typical, or very low?)
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