On February 16, 2023 6:37:42 PM EST, Mark Alley via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> wrote: >You only need to create that record if you are sending the >aggregate/failure reports for a particular domain that is different >from >the one the reports are actually on behalf of. > >So for example, if you owned domain1.com and wanted to send RUA/RUF >reports >for domain1.com to a mailbox at domain2.com (assuming you own domain2), >you >would need to create the TXT record in domain2 - >"domain1.com._report._ >dmarc.domain2.com" IN TXT "v=DMARC1;" > >If you're using an external third party for report analysis, usually >they >have a wildcard published in their DNS for this "_report._dmarc" >subdomain, >so you don't have to worry about it in that case. > > >- Mark Alley > > >On Thu, Feb 16, 2023, 4:14 PM H via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > >> On 02/11/2023 07:42 PM, H wrote: >> >> On 02/11/2023 01:55 AM, Gellner, Oliver via mailop wrote: >> >> >> On 2023-02-11 02:51 H via mailop wrote: >> >> >> On 02/10/2023 10:13 AM, Gellner, Oliver via mailop wrote: >> >> On 2023-02-10 04:08, H via mailop wrote: >> >> I now did find that resource but it is written as general information >and does not really tell how to get it going with IONOS if they run the >email server... >> >> As far as I understood you not only use Ionos as your registrar, but >also use their email server to send your email through. Ionos does not >DKIM sign emails on behalf of its customers, at least they didn't do so >in the past. So the answer is simple: You do not set up DKIM or DMARC >at all, because you can't. >> The instructions given by Ionos are only valid if your email is sent >and signed by some other server and you want to add the DKIM public key >to your domain hosted at Ionos. >> >> -- >> BR Oliver >> >> Thank you, you are starting with the first issue, ie whether I can >even >> have a DKIM record given that the domain is hosted by Ionos as is the >mail >> server. Upon my additional research I have come to the same >conclusion as >> you, ie not possible. >> >> By the way, I stumbled across this posting on the net - >> >https://serverfault.com/questions/1030262/record-dkim-on-ionos-makes-sense >> - that as far as I can tell is still true. >> >> So, I will now look at creating a DMARC record given that I have >> previously created a SPF record and will not be able to have a DKIM >record. >> >> I recommend against setting up a DMARC record with a policy of >quarantine >> or reject as long as DKIM signing isn‘t in place. The SPF >authentication >> will break for all forwarded messages as well as for all automatic >replies >> or non-delivery reports. It will do mire harm than good. >> Of course if you‘re interested in the reporting you can create a >DNARC >> record with a none policy and only change that after you have moved >to a >> different email provider who supports DKIM. >> >> — >> BR Oliver >> >> ------------------------------ >> dmTECH GmbH >> Am dm-Platz 1, 76227 Karlsruhe * Postfach 10 02 34, 76232 Karlsruhe >> Telefon 0721 5592-2500 Telefax 0721 5592-2777 >> dmt...@dm.de <dmt...@dm.de> * www.dmTECH.de <http://www.dmtech.de> >> GmbH: Sitz Karlsruhe, Registergericht Mannheim, HRB 104927 >> Geschäftsführer: Christoph Werner, Martin Dallmeier, Roman Melcher >> ------------------------------ >> Datenschutzrechtliche Informationen >> Wenn Sie mit uns in Kontakt treten, beispielsweise wenn Sie an unser >> ServiceCenter Fragen haben, bei uns einkaufen oder unser dialogicum >in >> Karlsruhe besuchen, mit uns in einer geschäftlichen Verbindung stehen >oder >> sich bei uns bewerben, verarbeiten wir personenbezogene Daten. >> Informationen unter anderem zu den konkreten Datenverarbeitungen, >> Löschfristen, Ihren Rechten sowie die Kontaktdaten unserer >> Datenschutzbeauftragten finden Sie hier >> ><https://www.dm.de/datenschutzerklaerung-kommunikation-mit-externen-493832> >> . >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mailop mailing >listmailop@mailop.orghttps://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop >> >> I see. As I am sure everyone has noticed, I am a complete newbie to >> SPF/DKIM/DMARC (and a lot of other things.) >> >> Understanding your message, creating a DMARC with "none" policy would >not >> have any downside? When you say "reporting", what type of reporting >would >> that be and how could I benefit from such reporting? >> >> I have created a DMARC record and checked that it is correctly set up >on a >> DMARC check site. I understand that in order to receive these reports >I >> also need to create a EDV record among my domain DNS settings? >> >> Googling around I have not found any clear instructions on how to do >so? >> >> At this time my understanding is that I need to create another TXT >record >> where the host field would contain "mydomain.com._report._ >> dmarc.mydomain.com" and the value field would contain "v=DMARC1". >> Mydomain above would of course be replaced with the actual domain >name. >> >> Thanks. >> _______________________________________________ >> mailop mailing list >> mailop@mailop.org >> https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop >>
Since I will be analyzing the data myself, no third-party involved, I do not this type of record, correct? _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
