On Thu 19/May/2022 14:42:13 +0200 Dave Crocker wrote:
On 5/19/2022 2:41 AM, Alessandro Vesely via mailop wrote:
On Wed 18/May/2022 03:01:49 +0200 Dave Crocker via mailop wrote:
Note that, in spite of DMARC, we still do not have per-user authentication.

The FTC report required *domain-level* authentication.  They wrote:
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They were assuming that the ISP would at least have true payment records, that would provide useful investigative leads, in case name and address were false.

Since a 'do not email /ME/' requires resolution down to the individual user and this must happen as the mail is being formed or sent, the list or database query must be down to the resolution of the individual. Domain level is not sufficient.


They said that under the ECPA the Commission can issue a Civil Investigative Demand to seek enough information about the individual.


For authentication only at the domain level to be sufficient, it requires that the owner of the domain explicitly and reliably vet that all addresses in their domain are valid and that all requests for listing, for an address in that domain, be valid.  Good luck with that.


Well, except open relays and criminal spammers, domain owners do require some kind of identification before sending. Criminal spammers register their own domains. The uselessness of domain-level authentication arises from the fact that domain owners themselves, not their users, are not identifiable.


Best
Ale
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