I don't recall seeing any discussion in this thread about how to migrate
old email messages from a Google Workspace account to a different host.
Anyone have advice or suggestions on how to do that?


On Sat, Apr 9, 2022 at 9:15 PM Chris Woods via mailop <mailop@mailop.org>
wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022, 21:38 Mark E. Jeftovic via mailop, <mailop@mailop.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tara,
>>
>> We bundle 3 and 5 IMAP boxes with standard and pro dns packages (domain
>> reg + DNS + email) for $35/year and $55/year
>>
>> And yes, we support + addressing.
>>
>> We've also implemented SRS on your email forwarders.
>>
>> - mark
>> On 2022-04-09 12:26 PM, Tara Natanson via mailop wrote:
>>
>> Thank you all for your responses.   I am happy to pay some, but
>> switching to google workspace with what I need would be 36$/month so
>> looking for a cheaper option than that.  Yes Google says there is a no-cost
>> option available but I did look into it and it won't work.
>>
>> Biggest problem I'm having is that no one states in their advertising or
>> FAQs if they support "+" addressing.
>>
>> Is anyone using the following services and can confirm if they support
>> "+" addressing or not?
>> Dreamhost
>>  ZOHO
>> FASTMAIL -
>> iCloud-
>>
>> Tara
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 9, 2022 at 9:50 AM Byron Lunz <byronl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Announcements about this from Google say that a "no cost option" will
>>> soon be announced, so it probably makes sense to wait a bit longer to see
>>> what that is. It *might* be a recommendation to move your domain to Google
>>> Domains, where you can get up to 100 email addresses forwarded to your
>>> free Gmail address. <https://support.google.com/domains/answer/3251241>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 6:43 AM Tara Natanson via mailop <
>>> mailop@mailop.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A while back there was a thread about the best place to host small biz
>>>> domain email but I'm looking for something even smaller.
>>>>
>>>> I've got my personal domain hosted on gmail.  It's been there for more
>>>> than 10 years and was grandfathered into their free hosting tier.  In June
>>>> GMAIL is doing away with this plan and going to charge 5$/address per
>>>> domain per month.  I've got dozens of addresses setup so this really isn't
>>>> a good/affordable option anymore.
>>>>
>>>> Where would you recommend hosting your domain so that you can pop/imap,
>>>> use "+" addressing, isn't spammer friendly, and basically works similar to
>>>> gmail? I no longer have a website setup, so mail is the only thing I care
>>>> about. I'm fine with a solution that has me setting up a new gmail account
>>>> and just popping the mail to there, but what are folks using these days?
>>>> (assuming I have no desire to run my own server)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for any recommendations!
>>>>
>>>> Tara Natanson
>>>>
>>>
> Hello Tara,
>
> I've used Dreamhost for 15 years for family and a few friends' personal
> email and web sites. DH accounts support inbound plus addressing - just
> tested sending from gmail to one of my accounts.
>
> Dreamhost now do ingress and egress mail filtering via Mailchannels MXes
> (in my experience it occasionally catches a handful of false positives,
> worth checking the spam folder periodically but it's made a decent positive
> improvement to spam reaching inboxes. They also proactively monitor for any
> mailbox compromise or outbound spam through accounts.
>
> I recently recommitted on a three year plan as I blagged a decent price.
> Current introductory pricing for new customers is pretty good. I've hosted
> with them since 2007 and their service has been pretty solid throughout
> without price hikes.
>
> Their tech support is much better than it used to be - they started to
> scale up around 2009/2010 and struggled with some growing pains, but they
> dealt with it and shared hosting service has been good for years. (see
> dreamhoststatus.com) They've implemented some nice security improvements
> behind the scenes and still offer things like SSH which can be useful.
> Their mail hosting was also migrated to bigger, newer infrastructure a
> while back which improved performance.
>
> Support is ticket-based unless you pay for premium support, but they're
> actually helpful and responsive after a ticket is assigned to someone. I've
> very rarely needed to contact support over the last 15 odd years. Obviously
> all their hosting is in the US which may have GDPR/data export implications
> for commercial use.
>
> Shameless referral link: https://www.dreamhost.com/r.cgi?264181 though
> feel free to go direct.
>
> I host other personal and business services with various providers,
> including Mythic Beasts who have always provided gold standard service. But
> that's for VPSes I still have to manage and maintain. Compared to a
> specialist dedi/VPS provider, Dreamhost shared won't win site speed awards,
> but it's perfectly fine and they do offer optimisations and one-click
> installers for popular stuff. Certainly for my email needs, DH has always
> provided what I wanted.
>
> I generally use afraid.org premium account for external DNS, keeping an
> eye on any occasional changes they might make to hosting or mail
> infrastructure (as they will sometimes update default records automatically
> on the assumption you are hosting DNS for your domains on their NS). DH
> will still notify in advance if critical things like MX or IMAP access is
> changing, which itself is a rare occurrence. For most people Dreamhost's
> DNS management panel will be more than adequate.
>
> Protonmail also support inbound plus/sub-addressing as I believe does
> Outlook/Hotmail.
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
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