Having observed a large number of disposable gmail address sites out there with supporting APIs, abused accounts are likely a component. Websites like https://www(.)gmailnator(.)com/ and supporting APIs ( https://rapidapi(.)com/johndevz/api/gmailnator ) that facilitate abuse of Google services yet receive ad revenue from Google really makes one wonder.
To provide an even assessment, the problem isn't limited to Gmail addresses. Is anyone tracking disposable email websites and associated sending domains or is this just seen as noise in the larger scope? Is anyone interested in trying to more assess the impact of these platforms and their core use cases? A few quick examples of the many available: https://temp-mail(.)org/en/ ( Also has apps in the Google and Apple App store ) https://www.fakemail(.)net/ http://www.fakemailgenerator(.)com/ On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 3:09 PM Suresh Ramasubramanian via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > It is an xbl listing and that usually catches bot spam traffic. So unless > some botnet found a way to abuse farmed or infected gmail accounts .. > probably an FP > > I’d totally get the point (but not appreciate it despite the spam levels) > if it were an SBL > > > --srs > ------------------------------ > *From:* mailop <mailop-boun...@mailop.org> on behalf of Michael Peddemors > via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 31, 2021 8:09:50 PM > *To:* mailop@mailop.org <mailop@mailop.org> > *Subject:* Re: [mailop] google at spamhaus > > Yes, it is unfortunate.. especially given the amount of money they > promised to spend on security. And while we do have to recognize the > sheer size and scope of Gmail, we should also have higher expectations > from them given their size. > > While 'filtering' does work at the receiving MTA, there is not reason > for this to leave Google's networks. IF everyone can make filters to > stop it, so can Google. > > And yes, unfortunately, about 80% of the email that reaches the filters > and gets put into spam folders does appear to be from Gmail. > > If this was an intentional listing by SpamHaus, I applaud them doing a > 'shot over the bow'.. There should no longer be a 'too big to block' get > out of jail free card. > > Even our threat mitigation teams are now working on Gmail specific > rulesets, and more 'rejection' instead of 'filtering' especially with > the obvious bad junk.. but they aren't very far from where other RBL's > will start joining policies and actions that demand accountability. > > > > On 2021-08-31 4:36 a.m., Laura Atkins via mailop wrote: > > Google is a huge source of spam, particularly B2B spam. There’s an > > entire industry built of companies selling plugins and other services > > that allow you to spam through your G Suite account. Yes, Google blocks > > outbound (for 24 hours) if one user sends more than 1000(?) messages a > > day. But the businesses just run multiple G Suite accounts. In “good” > > news, a lot of this mail is thrown away or dropped on the floor by > > filters, but companies tell me that it’s hugely profitable, so much so > > that they’d rather buy another set of domains / G suite account than > > give up the spam. > > > > laura > > > > > > > >> On 31 Aug 2021, at 11:04, Tim Bray via mailop <mailop@mailop.org > >> <mailto:mailop@mailop.org <mailop@mailop.org>>> wrote: > >> > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I noticed that a google IPv6 address was recently listed in spamhaus > XBL. > >> > >> 2607:f8b0:4864:20::82c at 2021-08-30 19:27:45 UTC > >> > >> I just thought this a bit unusual and worth a mention. Probably the > >> first time I've seen spamhaus block a genuine sender (to me) > >> > > > > -- > "Catch the Magic of Linux..." > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Michael Peddemors, President/CEO LinuxMagic Inc. > Visit us at http://www.linuxmagic.com @linuxmagic > A Wizard IT Company - For More Info http://www.wizard.ca > "LinuxMagic" a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 604-682-0300 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada > > This email and any electronic data contained are confidential and intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. > Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely > those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. > _______________________________________________ > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org > https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop > _______________________________________________ > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org > https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop >
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