Is Email a democracy? If so, my vote is similar to what have been said here, I 
say COI, customers say "what?", I reply "or you know, DOI", customers say "ha 
yes, that".
I prefer COI too, but apparently I don't have a _that_ big impact on the world 
and people's mind (I guess I forgot something in my magic spell).

Another reason why people, plebeian and even some elites, would more easily say 
double opt-in instead of confirmed opt-in? That's not the opt-in part:

  *   ˈdə-bəlg
  *   kən-ˈfərmd

One is more easy to pronounce than the other.

Adding grist to the mill, we're seeing "email verification" services using the 
same mechanism as COI/DOI, but with another purpose: _confirming_ that the 
email address owner is the person who filled in the online form. So yeah, it's 
not _whatever_ opt-in, but "email address ownership confirmation". Or 
"validation?" That's probably worth another fight.

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Benjamin

From: mailop <mailop-boun...@mailop.org> On Behalf Of Tom Bartel via mailop
Sent: lundi 26 août 2019 21:17
To: Ralf Hildebrandt <ralf.hildebra...@charite.de>
Cc: mailop <mailop@mailop.org>
Subject: Re: [mailop] [ext] Re: Return Path / Sender Score

I work at Return Path and I can't seem to find any references to double-opt in 
on Sender Score site.  LMK if you have a specific reference. I agree with Matt 
V. though that DOI/COI interchangeable, though I prefer COI.

Tom

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 12:37 PM Ralf Hildebrandt via mailop 
<mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote:
* Jay Hennigan via mailop <mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>>:

> Spamspeak is alive and well on this very list. Witness the ongoing
> appearance of the spammer term "double opt-in" in recent posts instead of
> "confirmed opt-in".

I'll rather use the term "confirmed opt-in" then :)
Also, it makes more sense, since the recipient has to confirm the subscription.

I was just using "double opt in", since that's what senderscore 
et.al<http://et.al>. use on their pages.

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Ralf Hildebrandt                   Charite Universitätsmedizin Berlin
ralf.hildebra...@charite.de<mailto:ralf.hildebra...@charite.de>        Campus 
Benjamin Franklin
https://www.charite.de             Hindenburgdamm 30, 12203 Berlin
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