On 1/8/2019 5:16 PM, Jim Popovitch via mailop wrote:
I also see an issue where you probably shouldn't criticize
another DNSBL unless you have data that they are misstating why and how
they collect fees for their efforts


Jim,

My focus was always on "best practices" and principles - and I think I did a pretty good job of avoiding "naming names" (go back and see for yourself). If someone was reading your statement above - and hadn't actually read my earlier few posts I made - they would have a radically twisted (and negative) impression of me and what I stated - compared to what actually happened.

But I will say this - I sleep well at night knowing that I am economically incentivized to run invaluement with the highest ethical standards. Why? Because it is in my economic best interest to do my best to make sure that our subscribers' customers are (1) happy with what invaluement causes to be in the spam folder -AND- (2) happy with what invaluement didn't cause to be in the spam folder and that remained in the inbox. PERIOD. This is one of the benefits of not being overly-entangled with conflicts of interest, due to NOT having economic incentives that compete with those two goals.

Also, your defense of situations that involve a "conflict of interest" - is basically to say, "but how do you know for sure that the person isn't giving in to competing interests or is compromised? and how dare you question their judgment!" (to summarize your arguments) - but you're sort of missing the point and you're showing a lack of understanding about professional ethics when it comes to conflicts of interest. For example, if a judge were randomly assigned a case where one side of the case was a close blood relative of that judge - that judge would recuse himself due to a conflict of interest - and another judge would be assigned to the case. So what you're doing is no different than that same scenario - except where the judge refuses to recuse himself - and then you come along and tell those who complained "how dare you question that judge's ability to be impartial - you can't know for sure that he will be biased" - Jim - that might be a little bit more of an extreme example - but that is basically YOU on this thread.

In that hypothetical situation, if someone were to criticize me for questioning whether that judge should be taking that case - and then claimed that I was allegedly claiming that this judge was an unethical person - BOTH stances are just incredibly offensive and show a childish lack of understanding of professional ethics and maturity. That is basically what you've done on this thread regarding my criticisms of blacklists that accept payment for delistings and/or payments for whitelistings. Just because I consider that a conflict of interest - doesn't mean that I'm making any kind of specific claim that any particular DNSBL is unethical, or run by unethical people. And as far as your "you probably shouldn't criticize" - wow - that just an amazing statement. It makes me inclined to want to reply in ways that wouldn't be professional or nice. So I'll stop here and quit before I put my foot in my mouth!

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Rob McEwen
https://www.invaluement.com



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