-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On Fri, 2018-06-08 at 17:21 +0200, Stefano Bagnara wrote: > On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 at 16:47, Jim Popovitch via mailop <mailop@mailop. > org> wrote: > > On Fri, 2018-06-08 at 10:27 -0400, Rob McEwen wrote: > > > there has to be some justified level of "collateral damage" these > > > days, due to the very high frequency of hijacked accounts, > > > hijacked > > > websites, and spamming ESP customers (from ESP that are overall > > > good). > > > > Rather than dumping a piece of technology (ipv6), dump the ESPs > > that > > enable cheap sending. (Win! Win!). If those ESP customers had to > > build > > out their own infrastructure then they would take better care of > > it... > > regardless of ipv4, ipv6, ipv8, etc. > > If you really think that rejecting email from senders that want to > optimize their costs is a good strategy.... > Well, IPv6 is simply a way to make email sending cheaper. So not > supporting Ipv6 is an effective way to dump cheap sending. > > I guess anyone with a good corpus can easily check that "inexpensive > ESP" are not more spammy than "fortune 500 ESP". > > Someone proposed to simply add some cost to every SMTP transaction as > a way to stop the spam, some blacklist offer paid unlisting services, > too... but spammers sometimes have more money to send email than the > average user IMHO.
Fair points! My comment was mostly tongue-in-cheek, but there is something to be said about how relatively easy it is to send bulk spam. - -Jim P. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEPxwe8uYBnqxkbORSJxVetMRaJwUFAlsaomoACgkQJxVetMRa JwVGKA/+JNNIAJq05rmovo8xZxPQZqUsdUJ5Y+ZqaMIynlGNg6tLy+qfKFF1wtFa dF01Rhyo0L3f7muWU4UDG7+o2nCp0n6elwvrwZtMnC6KnkEaNM8EhxOOq0b6L5ad Nj/0m0jkvz2R5eoIpfcN17u3TG3cafn4iWMzXJlJXs/gvpwggIN8NPHXS7mry7WW LC0m1Zr2wMc6396TEky5LCTFPsqdTSENhh9krJsN4xYCJmcggUd7vokLjqe7tPuA KmoftehvJ1Tyfeav7R8IY7GMhE3lJMLnlo4sdprg++U9PphSYeVtdeb+OHpdmHu1 JkS0Dl5ttpTvWqmVILtZOx7l2IwdrKtcErW0r435sFTJysqrbrxRkzEOMUrg/L8P ycvQMMgo6CK4NzZ3NatJnRe1frvLpsrWtvdyV6XxsMNC1vGq/ITWdYe8TknwDF8O vMMYNL5z4/CMu/YgV28QVF5ZyAP3aXNb8Z6co8+FGINtyU8O4XM+1WWo6JWQeIKS zZ1ddv99PNhYJFhgWoI7GTPoa76pXsL7mWV1Qopd6vvCQkdU0CzoxXpZe/lbhIO7 ztR+AXw+k82lc4dGyTfuyn33hwgshI7LkndxLyU2c49xHitHkIfWqcPQUy/q0qTZ gzvAEzNypr59YI1Hv9Vr8gtRA+23fEigc/kJMzMKRypZNVJ2eo0= =QYPF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
