On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 at 16:47, Jim Popovitch via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 2018-06-08 at 10:27 -0400, Rob McEwen wrote:
> > there has to be some justified level of "collateral damage" these
> > days, due to the very high frequency of hijacked accounts, hijacked
> > websites, and spamming ESP customers (from ESP that are overall
> > good).
>
> Rather than dumping a piece of technology (ipv6), dump the ESPs that
> enable cheap sending. (Win! Win!).  If those ESP customers had to build
> out their own infrastructure then they would take better care of it...
> regardless of ipv4, ipv6, ipv8, etc.

If you really think that rejecting email from senders that want to
optimize their costs is a good strategy....
Well, IPv6 is simply a way to make email sending cheaper. So not
supporting Ipv6 is an effective way to dump cheap sending.

I guess anyone with a good corpus can easily check that "inexpensive
ESP" are not more spammy than "fortune 500 ESP".

Someone proposed to simply add some cost to every SMTP transaction as
a way to stop the spam, some blacklist offer paid unlisting services,
too... but spammers sometimes have more money to send email than the
average user IMHO.

Stefano

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