The AS codes are internal IDs, and are not ASNs.
Each one means something different.
Conflating the different codes is pretty much the same as saying, "My Mail
Was Blocked!"
It's not overly helpful in diagnosing the issue.
Again, open a ticket; it's the only wat to get visibility on general
issues.
https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=614866&clcid
Aloha,
Michael.
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From: Maarten Oelering [mailto:maar...@postmastery.net]
Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 12:22 AM
To: Benjamin BILLON <bbillon...@splio.fr>
Cc: "Emre Üst |euro.message|" <emre....@euromsg.com>; mailop@mailop.org;
Michael Wise <michael.w...@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [mailop] Hotmail and 4.5.1 4.7.500 Server Busy with some
We are seeing this error on specific sender IPs. So “Server busy” may be
intentionally and dependent on the sender.
There are also many versions of this error, with at least 6 different AS
codes. Some occur after MAIL FROM, some occur after RCPT TO, and some occur
after DATA.
Previously Hotmail said something like “We have limits for how many
messages can be sent per hour and per day”. Very useful, you knew that
reputation was the issue.
Now we just see “Server busy” with an internal code, and we have to guess
what’s wrong. It would be helpful to know more about these AS codes. Or at
least which ones are sender issues and which ones receiver issues. This will
also relieve Microsoft support I guess.
Maarten Oelering
Postmastery
On 3 Nov 2017, at 07:49, Benjamin BILLON via mailop <mailop@mailop.org>
wrote:
Sorry to interrupt, I just have a suggestion that maybe Michael could
forward internally: there used to have a Status page for various Microsoft
services, it either moved to some secret place or was removed. There's now a
page for Office365 clients (however being myself client the page generates
an asp error, but that's not the purpose of my message).
Could there be such a page somewhere again? If there are issues, just
being aware of them will already help ESPs and senders to 1) be patient and
2) show to their clients or boss that yes, it happens, ISPs can have outages
or problems too.
I have no idea what format it would take, probably a "working / not
working" flag wouldn't be very useful, unless it's service by service (but I
don't think MS would disclose such level of details).
Knowing if it's geographically limited could be interesting to.
Is it a realistic suggestion, or should I put this dream in the shredder?
Cheers,
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2017-11-03 14:19 GMT+08:00 Emre Üst |euro.message| <emre....@euromsg.com>:
Hi Michael,
Yes we are still seeing same code .
2017-11-03 09:17:02 "451 4.7.500 Server busy. Please try again later
from []. (AS3110)" received from hotmail-com.olc.protection.outlook.com
(104.47.5.33) matching /451 4.7.500 Server busy/
We cant send even 1000 mails to Hotmail per day .
Thank you
On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 12:13 AM, Michael Wise <michael.w...@microsoft.com>
wrote:
This may be related to an incident a few days ago.
Are you still seeing the 4xx retry results?
Aloha,
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From: Emre Üst |euro.message| [mailto:emre....@euromsg.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 1:05 PM
To: Michael Wise <michael.w...@microsoft.com>
Cc: mailop@mailop.org
Subject: Re: [mailop] Hotmail and 4.5.1 4.7.500 Server Busy with some
Hi Michael ,
Unfortunately , it doesnt work . Outlook Support team said that there is
not blocking on their side .
Although the ips are Returnpath certified. Sometimes we also get 421
RP-001 (BAY004-MC2F28) errors. But mostly 451 4.7.500 Server busy.
Meanwhile, on snds I see that there is a lot of difference between the
number of RCPT fields and Message recipientss.
For Exp.
RCPT
commands 111829
DATA
commands 106093
Message
recipients 1215
Thank you
On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 10:18 PM, Michael Wise <michael.w...@microsoft.com>
wrote:
Please open a ticket.
https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=614866&clcid
Aloha,
Michael.
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From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Emre Üst
|euro.message|
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 2:20 PM
To: mailop@mailop.org
Subject: Re: [mailop] Hotmail and 4.5.1 4.7.500 Server Busy with some
Hello Michael,
We have same issues
185.11.213.11;185.11.213.12;185.11.213.13;185.11.213.14;185.11.213.15
İts kind of like all network blocked .
Thank you
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