Digging up this topic,

@Anna> you might have had some feedback from Google about that since your
message?

I can still sleep at night, but I'm curious about the outcome!
-- 

Benjamin

2017-05-31 18:23 GMT+02:00 Nick Schafer <n...@mailgun.com>:

> The feedback loop shouldn't include messages caught by their spam filter
> as users aren't able to complain against a message already in the spam
> folder. The feedback loop is used to identify campaigns in a sender's
> traffic that are getting a high volume of complaints from Gmail users. From
> my understanding the user reported spam number would be the overall rate
> that day for that DKIM domain while the feedback loop would be for the
> identifier specified. But if the only messages they sent that day had the
> broadcast identifier, i would expect the rates to be much closer. Maybe an
> error or someone complaining then marking not spam, and then doing the same
> thing over and over?
>
> Nick Schafer
> Technical Account Manager, Mailgun <http://www.mailgun.com/>
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>
> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 5:53 AM, Paul Smith <p...@pscs.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 31/05/2017 10:29, Anna Ward wrote:
>>
>> I've talked to a bunch of different industry folks at this point, and no
>> one seems to understand the difference between "user reported spam" and
>> "feedback loop spam" in Google Postmaster Tools
>> <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6227174?hl=en>.
>>
>> A notable example for me was May 8th when a client's DKIM domain showed a
>> 100% "feedback loop spam rate" but only a 0.1% "user reported spam rate" (
>> screenshots <http://howdyanna.com/xnnd/>).
>> They sent to about 4000 Gmail addresses that day, and the one identifier
>> in the Feedback Loop graph was "broadcast" (represents the message type, a
>> bulk-send newsletter). All of their outgoing mail used the "broadcast"
>> identifier like this: Feedback-Id: xxxx:xxxx:broadcast:getresponse
>>
>> I just can't think of a scenario where the Feedback Loop could be at 100%
>> but the Spam Rate ("user reported") would be at only 0.1%. How are such
>> drastic differences possible?
>>
>>
>> If the feedback loop includes messages caught by their spam filter, then
>> if their spam blocked everything, that would show 100% as spam, but most
>> users wouldn't see the spam or bother reporting it as spam (because it's
>> already been caught) so the user reported spam rate would be approaching
>> zero.
>>
>>
>>
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