" All this is stating is that DNS++ does not support RFC 2671 EDNS protocol 
extensions.  
" DNS++ is responding per the RFC by sending the FORMERR back to the requestor. 
 

We don't support *ANY* EDNS features at present, at all.
That would appear to include the ... OPT records?

As to the, "Why?" I don't know. There appear to be internal load balancing 
issues in play, but that's a guess.
Not my department at all.

Aloha,
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Finch [mailto:fa...@hermes.cam.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tony Finch
Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 3:29 AM
To: Michael Wise <michael.w...@microsoft.com>
Cc: mailop@mailop.org
Subject: Re: [mailop] DNS Errors for Microsoft Hostnames

Michael Wise <michael.w...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> So is the FORMERR ... just the resolver noting that EDNS is not supported?
>
> If so, I'm uncertain of the issue.

There has been some discussion of this problem on the bind-users list, see 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2flists.isc.org%2fpipermail%2fbind-users%2f2016-May%2fthread.html&data=01%7c01%7cMichael.Wise%40microsoft.com%7cc8be6a025d804f03da5c08d374d019f9%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=9g%2bvN%2bth9lLTwzURPBBuCZugYPu5D1zCjVGAORY2GzE%3d

The problems seem to be:

(1) Very short TTL on the NS records, which means that most attempts to resolve 
the names have to go through iterative name server discovery.

(2) Only two NS records, but each server has a large number of IP addresses, 
and the sets of IP addresses overlap.

(3) Lack of EDNS support means more work has to be done by a resolver each time 
the TTL expires.

The way to fix this would be to increase the stability of the name server 
records - the NS records and associated address records. Give them decently 
long TTLs, have a few more NS records, with few non-overlapping IP addresses 
each.

Add support for EDNS to your server - you don't need to support any special 
EDNS features (no need for large packets), just handle OPT records, so that 
resolvers don't have to do error recovery.

Tony.
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