I have increased query-errors logging in BIND to level 10.  Hopefully that will 
give us more to work with when the problem re-occurs.  Hopefully all the 
invalid PTRs won’t cause these logs to melt the boxes.

-Rob Heilman


> On Apr 28, 2016, at 5:56 PM, Michael Wise <michael.w...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> 
>   <>
> So is the FORMERR ... just the resolver noting that EDNS is not supported?
> If so, I'm uncertain of the issue.
> We don't use EDNS here, so that's what the “our” servers should be doing, yes?
>  
> Also, when I replied (“ALL”) to this thread a bit earlier, my response was 
> bounced by one particular recipient with:
>  
> Error Details
> Reported error: 550 5.7.1 Mail rejected - dcc score 1000
> Retry count:       1
> DSN generated by:          BY2PR03MB409.namprd03.prod.outlook.com 
> <http://by2pr03mb409.namprd03.prod.outlook.com/>
> Remote server: *
>  
> Traffic to a mailinglist is scored with DCC?
>  
> Aloha,
> Michael.
> -- 
> Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been 
> Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ?
>  
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> To: mailop@mailop.org <mailto:mailop@mailop.org>
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> On Thu, 2016-04-28 at 20:57 +0000, Michael Wise wrote:
> > If the "Aware" flag expired, would best practice not be to check that
> > first rather than presuppose that the facility does exist?
>  
> The check for "edns aware" involves sending the query with edns extensions. 
> If the reply is formerr (or possibly others?), then you can remember that 
> this server does not understand edns, and repeat the query without it.
>  
> If you just do the first query without edns, there is no mechanism to then 
> learn that that server does indeed understand edns.
>  
>  
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