Michael,

Could you elaborate on:

"The issue will be highlighted in the SNDS report, however."

Luke


On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Michael Wise <michael.w...@microsoft.com>
wrote:

> Has the customer signed up for JMRP or SNDS?
>
> Because if not, that would be step #0; see below.
>
>
>
> And yes, under certain circumstances, Hotmail/Outlook will 250 the mail,
> and may then if it considers the IP sufficiently toxic, delete it without
> delivering it to the intended recipient’s INBOX or Junk folder with no NDR.
> The issue will be highlighted in the SNDS report, however.
>
>
>
> And there is **NO-ONE** at Microsoft who is a contact who can get things
> running smoothly again.
>
> The policy is cast in ferro-cement, no exceptions:
>
>
>
> 1)      Open a ticket and request mitigation for the IP(s) here:
> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=614866&clcid
>
> 2)      Wait and see what the machine thinks…
>
> 3)      If the IPs are not mitigated, reply to the email and request it,
> and provide as much detail as possible about:
>
> A)                  what happened,
>
> B)                  what you did to fix it,
>
> C)                  and why it Won’t Happen Again.
>
>
>
> As to the programs that Senders should join, they are:
>
>
>
>
> *Join the Junk Mail Reporting Program (JMRP) *We believe that your
> recipients are the best indicator that the email you are sending is
> wanted.  The JMRP program allows you to see which of your emails
> Outlook.com users have marked as junk or unwanted mail.  Reviewing the
> results in JMRP will provide to the most direct information on what
> characteristics of your email, customers, and ultimately SmartScreen®,
> consider to be unwanted. This helpful feedback mechanism allows you to
> ensure that mails being sent from your IP are not resulting in negative
> feedback that could impact your sending reputation. Being vigilant about
> users who mark your e-mail as unwanted or the types of messages that are
> being marked as unwanted can help you keep mailing lists updated with only
> interested users and modify future campaigns. In addition, monitoring user
> complaints can help you identify unintended mail traffic or detect a
> potentially compromised account sending unwanted mail to your customers.
> Enroll at https://postmaster.live.com/snds/JMRP.aspx?wa=wsignin1.0.
>
>
>
> *Join the Smart Network Data Services program (SNDS)*
>
> The SNDS program provides data about traffic seen originating from your
> registered IP, such as mail volume and complaint rates. The data is built
> from the log files of the inbound mail machines and other servers at
> Outlook.com and Microsoft and represents factual information about the
> traffic from your mail servers to Outlook.com users. For more information
> about this free program refer to https://postmaster.live.com/snds/FAQ.aspx.
> To register, please go to http://postmaster.msn.com/snds/*.* (Tip: As
> part of the enrollment process, you are asked to sign the JMRP program
> agreement and then send a response to Support indicating that it has been
> signed.  It’s not uncommon for that step in the enrollment process to be
> missed.)
>
>
>
> Aloha,
>
> Michael.
>
> --
>
> *Michael J Wise* | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has
> Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool
> <http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18275> ?
>
>
>
> *From:* mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] *On Behalf Of *Aaron C.
> de Bruyn
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:12 PM
> *To:* mailop@mailop.org
> *Subject:* [mailop] Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears.
>
>
>
> A customer complained to me they haven't been able to e-mail
> outlook/hotmail users for "a while".
>
>
>
> I talked with their IT department and they said "A few weeks ago we had a
> virus that spammed a bunch of people.  We cleaned it up and got de-listed
> everywhere, but outlook.com
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2foutlook.com&data=01%7c01%7cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7c1ad1c59689ad4329debe08d34ec39d82%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=iDL%2b4ApS%2bv7Sg7TUAxIB4vohq5kzvJw51vTkSDs5Vyo%3d>
> is still broken".
>
>
>
> They gave up and turfed the issue to me (an outside consulting company).
>
>
>
> I set up a test account on outlook.com
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2foutlook.com&data=01%7c01%7cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7c1ad1c59689ad4329debe08d34ec39d82%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=iDL%2b4ApS%2bv7Sg7TUAxIB4vohq5kzvJw51vTkSDs5Vyo%3d>
> and tried sending several messages.  After 30 minutes the messages aren't
> in my outlook.com
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2foutlook.com&data=01%7c01%7cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7c1ad1c59689ad4329debe08d34ec39d82%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=iDL%2b4ApS%2bv7Sg7TUAxIB4vohq5kzvJw51vTkSDs5Vyo%3d>
> inbox or spam folder.
>
>
>
> I manually dug through the (password protected) archives (which don't have
> a search feature) and gave up after hitting mid 2015.  I only found:
>
>
>
> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/not-receiving-email
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fwindows.microsoft.com%2fen-us%2foutlook%2fnot-receiving-email&data=01%7c01%7cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7c1ad1c59689ad4329debe08d34ec39d82%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=6I0odYuAEGc7k0kd4iG4u0G5E1HjPliIcQEIrpRjR%2f0%3d>
>
>
>
> ...which is totally useless and ends up leading me to a generic support
> page.  (Strangely enough, I can search for "outlook.com
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2foutlook.com&data=01%7c01%7cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7c1ad1c59689ad4329debe08d34ec39d82%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=iDL%2b4ApS%2bv7Sg7TUAxIB4vohq5kzvJw51vTkSDs5Vyo%3d>
> unable to receive" and I can keep going in a loop forever.)
>
>
>
> Is there a better way of contacting Microsoft?
>
>
>
> Debug info:
>
>
>
> Mar 17 16:30:31 squid postfix/smtp[26744]: EB6401C4127: to=<
> darkpixe...@outlook.com>, relay=mx4.hotmail.com
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fmx4.hotmail.com&data=01%7c01%7cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7c1ad1c59689ad4329debe08d34ec39d82%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=U8ZV6Txb53ItjLKIfvARJWdD5Ri0i8I2vm7mB4EtqZw%3d>[65.55.92.184]:25,
> delay=0.87, delays=0.02/0/0.45/0.39, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250  <
> 20160317233030.eb6401c4...@mail.hamer-electric.com> Queued mail for
> delivery)
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> -A
>
>
>
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