On 2024-08-30 at 19:23:17 UTC-0400 (Fri, 30 Aug 2024 16:23:17 -0700)
Randall Gellens <mailmate@lists.freron.com>
is rumored to have said:
On 30 Aug 2024, at 16:08, Bill Cole wrote:
On 2024-08-30 at 13:22:20 UTC-0400 (Fri, 30 Aug 2024 10:22:20 -0700)
Randall Gellens <mailmate@lists.freron.com>
is rumored to have said:
On 30 Aug 2024, at 5:15, Charlie Clark wrote:
On 29 Aug 2024, at 18:41, Randall Gellens wrote:
I've been running my own mail server since last century and
haven't run into any problems with big email providers not
accepting my mail. What problems did you have?
[...]
It may be relevant that you, me, and everyone else who has been
running their own mail since the 90's have benefitted from having
started before the mail universe was centralized to a few behemoths
who have now learned to be suspicious of new entrants. Google and MS
have had a long time to learn to accept your mail and my mail.
True, but I also highly doubt that any of the big players have the
slightest idea that small players such as us even exist.
Right, there's no one who could find a place at MS or Google where our
domains or IPs are explicitly tagged as trustworthy. However, both have
filtering systems using machine learning techniques building models that
may well have been seeded from the start with mail more significantly
from such small players, anchoring a model of systems like ours from
which we continue to benefit. Conversely, if one registers a domain and
buys a cheap VPS and stands up a new mail system all in a day, they look
like a certain class of spammer. Such an initial misclassification can
live a very long time in a machine learning model, even in something
simple like a Naive Bayesian classifier.
--
Bill Cole
b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org
(AKA @grumpybozo@toad.social and many *@billmail.scconsult.com
addresses)
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