Hi Robin, Window-eyes will not work with WIndows-rt, and I’m not sure that it will work well on the surface albeit, it will probably try. I think you’re right in that Narrator will probably be merged with window-eyes, but most of this is largely speculation. On Jan 24, 2014, at 6:58 AM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I am under the impression that all Applications/programs/software, which can > run on a LapTop PC can also run on Microsoft's Surface PRO, which means that > GW Micro's WindowEYES should be able to run on Microsoft's Surface PRO. > > What I am NOT sure is if GW Micro's WindowEYES can run on Microsoft's Surface > (RT) primarily because it is only limited to Microsoft related content along > with Apps from the Microsoft Windows App Store. > > Sorry to be replying OFF LIST, but this subject IS NOT MAC related . > > I it is possible that Microsoft might merge both its Narrator and GW > Microsoft's WindowEYES into 1 text-to-speech (TTS). Who KNOWS? > > Sent From Berkeley,CA > At 11:44 AM 1/21/2014, you wrote: >> That’s an ouch! Whell somebody just wasted $1,000 for a Surface Pro. Wait! >> NVDA to the rescue! lol. >> >> Maybe partnered with MS it will be slipstreamed in Windows 9? Hopfully! >> Daniel Hawkins >> - Posted from my Macbook Pro >> >> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro >> 2.3 Quad-core i7 >> 4GB DDR3 >> 500GB HDD >> >> Dual Boot: >> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit >> >> On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:40 PM, David Tanner < david.tanner...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> One thing that may be a bit of an issue is that looking at Jaws, NVDA, >>> Window-Eyes and even adding System Access to the list, Window-Eyes is the >>> only one out of the four that apparently has no ability to be used on a >>> Windows 8 tablet. That may be an issue that Microsoft hasn’t taken into >>> consideration. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [ >>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Hawkins >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:02 PM >>> To: Mac Visionary >>> Subject: Re: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen reader >>> built in >>> >>> Lol, Windows 3.1 is a little before my time. But in a way Microsoft is >>> trying to catch up, their Windows 8 Pro can do both do the ARM based >>> Windows 8 apps and are cross platforms. Apple are slowly intregrating IOS >>> and Mac. And Google have the Chromebook. >>> >>> As ARM based cpu get more powerful that can bridge the gap between Intel >>> based OS it will be streamlined soon. Even Linux is now getting into ARM >>> bsed OS. >>> >>> So in that case, I still think the three major screenreaders will be >>> around.Unless JAWS can’t keep their contracts, they will be forced to lower >>> their prices, so we will see. >>> Daniel Hawkins >>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro >>> >>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro >>> 2.3 Quad-core i7 >>> 4GB DDR3 >>> 500GB HDD >>> >>> Dual Boot: >>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit >>> >>> On Jan 20, 2014, at 5:45 PM, erik burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com > >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hey guys, Another thing has occurred to me about this. As you know, >>> window-eyes has been under developed for several years. You might not be >>> aware that the personal computer is set to go on the long tail in 2016. >>> Sales of personal computers have been falling by about 30 per sent per >>> year. April 2013 was the worst quarter for PC sales in 20 years. In 2012 >>> smartphones made up more than 50 per sent of all cell phone use in the >>> United States. In 2013, Tablet sales exploded and the tablet is poised to >>> out sell the personal computer in 2014. >>> >>> It will take a long time for corporate and government to catch up, but they >>> are both already in the mobile space. Where do jaws, Window-eyes, and even >>> NVDA fit in to the 5 year trend of the over all market? Especially with >>> IPhone and android being very high quality accessibility choices and new >>> accessibility features emerging on Blackberry to compete with the other two >>> leading mobile platforms. >>> >>> Remember when windows 3.1 came along and people started competing for >>> access to windows? How many market leading companies raced to add >>> accessibility features. Let's see… henter-joice, gw michro, synthavoice >>> computers, artic, dolphin, AISquared… How many of those companies, most of >>> whom are still with us, have competed for anything in the mobile space? >>> AISquared, codefactory, that's all I can think of. Humanware and AFB have >>> stepped into the mobile space but their efforts have met with mixed success. >>> >>> Very few of Our so called leaders in accessibility are hungry for shares of >>> the new economy the way they were when windows 95 came out and blind people >>> could somewhat use it. >>> >>> Could it be that there is no money or not as much money as we think in the >>> window-eyes for office move and that it's part of an exit strategy to keep >>> as much value in the product as possible for as long as possible? I'm sure >>> Dan and Doug have rock solid RRSPs/retirement packages So do Eric and the >>> other FS bigwigs. These people aren't showing the drive to innovate that >>> they once did. They are in fact, stodgy. What has GW done for us lately? >>> Proprietary desktop applications for skype and facebook, both of which are >>> much more accessible in the mobile space to begin with and both of which >>> are better suited to the mobile space than the desktop space IMHO. It's >>> GW's attempt to coast through for another couple of years until the pc >>> space evaporates and the heads can retire. >>> >>> All speculation on my part. I loved window-eyes when it was on the >>> cutting edge. I just don't see it now though. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Erik Burggraaf >>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >>> >>> On 2014-01-20, at 5:45 PM, "Christina C." <blindmaclo...@gmail.com > wrote: >>> >>> >>> I do not understand all of the ins and outs of this but overall it appears >>> to be a positive thing for blind and visually impaired as well as for >>> others with various disabilities and challenges requiring adaptive >>> software and equipment. I did crack up at the line about being leaders. >>> LOL! They are behind the ball if you ask me. I love apple and my mac and >>> that is where my loyalties are at this point. I do think this opens doors >>> and that can always be a good thing. Maybe this will benefit me in some way >>> in the future especially since I’d like the ability to use a robust OCR >>> scanning software with a camera instead of a traditional scanner. Maybe one >>> day I will consider putting windows on my computer with boot camp or a >>> virtual environment. 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