I mostly use a mac, but was at a friend’s place the other day, they use windows 7 with NVDA, and it works great. Unless you are using a really nonstandard application, I can’t see any reason to pay for these expensive screen readers anymore, they simply are not needed. On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:40 PM, David Tanner <david.tanner...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One thing that may be a bit of an issue is that looking at Jaws, NVDA, > Window-Eyes and even adding System Access to the list, Window-Eyes is the > only one out of the four that apparently has no ability to be used on a > Windows 8 tablet. That may be an issue that Microsoft hasn’t taken into > consideration. > > > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Hawkins > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:02 PM > To: Mac Visionary > Subject: Re: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen reader > built in > > Lol, Windows 3.1 is a little before my time. But in a way Microsoft is trying > to catch up, their Windows 8 Pro can do both do the ARM based Windows 8 apps > and are cross platforms. Apple are slowly intregrating IOS and Mac. And > Google have the Chromebook. > > As ARM based cpu get more powerful that can bridge the gap between Intel > based OS it will be streamlined soon. Even Linux is now getting into ARM bsed > OS. > > So in that case, I still think the three major screenreaders will be > around.Unless JAWS can’t keep their contracts, they will be forced to lower > their prices, so we will see. > Daniel Hawkins > - Posted from my Macbook Pro > > 2012 15in. Macbook Pro > 2.3 Quad-core i7 > 4GB DDR3 > 500GB HDD > > Dual Boot: > Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit > > On Jan 20, 2014, at 5:45 PM, erik burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> wrote: > > > Hey guys, Another thing has occurred to me about this. As you know, > window-eyes has been under developed for several years. You might not be > aware that the personal computer is set to go on the long tail in 2016. > Sales of personal computers have been falling by about 30 per sent per year. > April 2013 was the worst quarter for PC sales in 20 years. In 2012 > smartphones made up more than 50 per sent of all cell phone use in the United > States. In 2013, Tablet sales exploded and the tablet is poised to out sell > the personal computer in 2014. > > It will take a long time for corporate and government to catch up, but they > are both already in the mobile space. Where do jaws, Window-eyes, and even > NVDA fit in to the 5 year trend of the over all market? Especially with > IPhone and android being very high quality accessibility choices and new > accessibility features emerging on Blackberry to compete with the other two > leading mobile platforms. > > Remember when windows 3.1 came along and people started competing for access > to windows? How many market leading companies raced to add accessibility > features. Let's see… henter-joice, gw michro, synthavoice computers, artic, > dolphin, AISquared… How many of those companies, most of whom are still with > us, have competed for anything in the mobile space? AISquared, codefactory, > that's all I can think of. Humanware and AFB have stepped into the mobile > space but their efforts have met with mixed success. > > Very few of Our so called leaders in accessibility are hungry for shares of > the new economy the way they were when windows 95 came out and blind people > could somewhat use it. > > Could it be that there is no money or not as much money as we think in the > window-eyes for office move and that it's part of an exit strategy to keep as > much value in the product as possible for as long as possible? I'm sure Dan > and Doug have rock solid RRSPs/retirement packages So do Eric and the other > FS bigwigs. These people aren't showing the drive to innovate that they once > did. They are in fact, stodgy. What has GW done for us lately? Proprietary > desktop applications for skype and facebook, both of which are much more > accessible in the mobile space to begin with and both of which are better > suited to the mobile space than the desktop space IMHO. It's GW's attempt to > coast through for another couple of years until the pc space evaporates and > the heads can retire. > > All speculation on my part. I loved window-eyes when it was on the cutting > edge. I just don't see it now though. > > Best, > > Erik Burggraaf > Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 > or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2014-01-20, at 5:45 PM, "Christina C." <blindmaclo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I do not understand all of the ins and outs of this but overall it appears to > be a positive thing for blind and visually impaired as well as for others > with various disabilities and challenges requiring adaptive software and > equipment. I did crack up at the line about being leaders. LOL! They are > behind the ball if you ask me. I love apple and my mac and that is where my > loyalties are at this point. I do think this opens doors and that can always > be a good thing. Maybe this will benefit me in some way in the future > especially since I’d like the ability to use a robust OCR scanning software > with a camera instead of a traditional scanner. Maybe one day I will consider > putting windows on my computer with boot camp or a virtual environment. So, > for me this topic is important to discuss even though I am a mac user. > > Christina > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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