Thanks, I had seen that mentioned but I am not running any sound or recording 
equipment, don’t even think I have anything installed. Strange as mail is 
working fine now, what is also strange is when I have the busy busy problem and 
have to quit mail to even use it, there is a delay when I try and bring it up, 
but not other programs, and now that mail is working fine I noticed there is no 
delay bringing mail up. Very strange issue.
On Jan 19, 2014, at 12:43 AM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote:

> This was on another thread but are you running any sound add-ons like Sound 
> Flower? Some have had issues with it interfering with the coreaudio libraries 
> and causing their system to slow down.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 1/19/14 12:35 AM, Brian Fischler wrote:
>> Yes, Command F5 was the first thing I tried it does nothing
>> On Jan 18, 2014, at 11:18 PM, Terje Strømberg <terjestrmb...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Have you tried coomand + f5 to turn off vo and command + f5 to turn vo on 
>>> again? Does this work for 10 minutes or more before it gets bussy again?
>>> 
>>> Take care
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 19. jan. 2014 kl. 01:37 skrev Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com>:
>>> 
>>> Hey Daniel,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for letting me know you aren’t having any problems. Is there 
>>> anything else I needed to be aware of when doing a disk repair? Never done 
>>> that, and my mail is already back to busy busy. I like using classic mode, 
>>> as I don’t like the newer mail format. Something has got to be causing this 
>>> issue as mail is the only area where I am having this busy busy issue that 
>>> only resolves by quoting mail which can get old having to do 20 times a 
>>> day. Thanks,
>>> On Jan 18, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Daniel McGee <danielmcgee...@googlemail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Unfortunately, I can’t suggest anything but if its of any help, I have a 
>>>> MBP late 2011 with 4GB of RAM and I have done straight updates from Lion 
>>>> to Mountain Lion and finally Mavericks.
>>>> Yet I haven’t experienced any problems with Mail busy’s at all.  I have 
>>>> the “use classic layout” box found in the viewing tab of mail preferences 
>>>> un-check. Maybe you should try viewing your mail that way and see if the 
>>>> busy’s still occur.
>>>> Sorry I couldn’t be of any further help. The only other thing I can 
>>>> suggest is a disc permission repair.
>>>> I don’t normally do that but when I do I find it can clear up any oddities 
>>>> that may be happening at the present time.
>>>> 
>>>> Daniel
>>>> On 18 Jan 2014, at 23:22, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Well unfortunately resetting the pram by unplugging the computer did 
>>>>> absolutely nothing. VoiceOver was choppy as soon as the computer started 
>>>>> up. Ridiculous, and very disappointing how poor Mavericks works on my 
>>>>> 2010 iMac, already getting busy issues with mail. Anything else I can try 
>>>>> without having to do a clean install which I really don’t want to do. My 
>>>>> machine only has 4 GB of Ram and I am thinking that running Mavericks 
>>>>> with only 4GB of RAM is the problem as my laptop has 8 GB of RAM and 
>>>>> doesn’t have the issues. Unreal just got caught in a busy busy loop while 
>>>>> typing this email and mail is the only thing running, and I have yet to 
>>>>> hook anything back up to USB or anything. Pretty sad that Mac mail can’t 
>>>>> run without problems on Mavericks with nothing else running.
>>>>> On Jan 18, 2014, at 7:56 AM, Red.Falcon 
>>>>> <velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Brian!
>>>>>> OK the way I saw written for a iMac is to close down and then switch off 
>>>>>> then unplug everything external drives usb items and the mains cable 
>>>>>> wait a minute or 2 then plug everything back in and start up again!
>>>>>> So of course if backing up to a external do that 1st and then make sure 
>>>>>> you eject it safely then do the rest!
>>>>>> HTH Colin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 18 Jan 2014, at 07:47, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hey Wayne,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks I am going to try this tomorrow. Only problem has does one hold 
>>>>>>> down those keys as it seems like it will take two hands to do so, and 
>>>>>>> my power button is on the back of my iMac.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On another hilarious mail note in mac mail I just got a test email I 
>>>>>>> sent to my gmail from my gmail it only took 8 hours to show up in my 
>>>>>>> inbox. So there are definitely still some serious gmail issues in mac 
>>>>>>> mail.
>>>>>>> On Jan 17, 2014, at 8:46 PM, wayne17a <wayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>        Hi you could try a pram reset by shutting down your mac and then
>>>>>>>> holding down the cmd and option key with the letters p and r and then 
>>>>>>>> hold
>>>>>>>> the power button down entill you hear four sets of chime hope this 
>>>>>>>> helps
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 2:06 PM
>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Serious Mail Busy Problems in Mavericks All of the sudden
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What was it about 15 minutes since I sent the message and I quit mail 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> was using it again and again the busy busy problems, and yes, I have
>>>>>>>> restarted my computer and still the same problems. Very frustrating.
>>>>>>>> On Jan 17, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Maria and Joe Chapman 
>>>>>>>> <bubbygirl1...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> HI.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> am not experiencing a lot of busy mail problems and usually if I do
>>>>>>>> quitting mail resolves this for a very long time.  I hope you can find 
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> solution to this problem.
>>>>>>>>> Warm regards and blessings
>>>>>>>>> Maria, Joe and FurBabies
>>>>>>>>> Email:  iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 18 Jan 2014, at 5:40 am, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hey listers,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Is anyone else experiencing serious mail busy busy busy problems in
>>>>>>>> Mavericks classic view mail mode? Over the last two days mail has 
>>>>>>>> become
>>>>>>>> almost unusable, with me having to constantly quit mail to stop the 
>>>>>>>> busy
>>>>>>>> busy and sluggishness. It just started again while writing this 
>>>>>>>> message. I
>>>>>>>> haven't changed any settings, so not sure where this could have come 
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> and what can be causing it. Also what's with messages taking so long 
>>>>>>>> to load
>>>>>>>> as I am constantly getting VO saying empty scroll area where the text 
>>>>>>>> of an
>>>>>>>> email should be and eventually the text appears there. Is there 
>>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>>> setting wise I might be able to change, as mail has become pretty 
>>>>>>>> unusable.
>>>>>>>> And now VO has completely stopped working with mail but every other
>>>>>>>> application is fine absolutely no speech with mail all of the sudden 
>>>>>>>> as it
>>>>>>>> usually reads characters and words, and now there is nothing
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