April, I understand how you feel. Before I went blind, I used to be a computer repair guy. I was Comp/TIA certified and I used to build and maintain office computers. As soon I lost my vision, I went over two years with no communication. I could not call well, txt, or email or surf the web. But since upon learning the iPad, and iPhone, and then the Mac, I am now back. I want to be Apple certified but that is in the future.
Yes dbtechies is at google groups. There is a guy there is the adaptive tech trainer for Helen Keller school for deafblind, his name is Scott Davert. And he is very knowledgeable and helpful there. How much of a loss in hearing do you have? face to face, do you understand voices ok? Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7 4GB DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit On Jan 9, 2014, at 11:10 AM, April Brown <aprilbrownwr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > I haven't been enrolled in that program yet, unless it is part of the > state program. I was diagnosies legaly blind last May, and am still in the > early stages of getting help from the state. This next appointment should > help. > > If I ever learn to use the technology, I'd like to be able to help > others like me cross the bridge from the sighted and hearing world to > non-sighted and non-hearing world. If it intimidates me, I can only imagine > what it would do to someone who may not even know how to check their email > before they go blind or deaf. > > I might contact offline next week. Am sick today and have online > Braille class office hours in a few minutes. There are some power Mac users > in there as well. > > Is the dbtechies on Google? > > I signed up for the website newsletter. > > I'll try to understand the VO commands later. I know I tried what I thought > I was supposed to, and they only lightly beeped at me. > > I still have enough vision most days to get around the computer, at least > till the evaluation in a few weeks. > > Thanks, and I may contact if still lost, > > April > > On Thursday, January 9, 2014 11:11:35 AM UTC-5, Daniel Hawkins wrote: > Hello April, > > Did you go through I Can Connect? With your hearing loss and vision loss you > should qualify that. I too went thru the program. As the federal law states > the equipment that you receive, you should receive training from the state, > in communication. Now each state is different in providing that. I live in > IL, and we don’t have a trainer, just one person that thinks they know it. I > had to learn everything myself. As of right now, I’m am working twords a goal > in training others to use assistance technology for blind and deafblind. I > will receive my full training hopefully in June. But as of right now, I’m > trying to learn as much I can now. So feel free to contact me off list if you > want training over email, or Apple’s iMessage, or over the phone. I don’t > know a whole a lot, but know enough to get around your Mac quite well. > > There is a deafblind mailing list called dbtechies, if you want to join too. > > I learned a lot of tips and basic things for both Mac, and iPhone at > www.htb2.com. There is a group of blind that talks and discuss about everyday > technology for the blind. > > Also if you are serious that you need this for your profession, maybe check > out Mac for the blind, or Fedora Outlier. Just some ideas. > As for surfing the internet, and you mentioned about you just see tabs but > not the page. If you go to the right and pass the tabs and see HTML contact, > you will need to interact. That is done by holding Vo shift down. Or > deinteract by holding VO shift and hit up arrow. > > Also here is a tip, If you want to google search or type an address in > Safari, just hit cmd l, that will take you to the address bar. > > I know there is an steep learning curve, and without no training, it can be > very very frustrating. Please, don’t give up, it will be worth it. > Daniel Hawkins > - Posted from my Macbook Pro > > 2012 15in. Macbook Pro > 2.3 Quad-core i7 > 4GB DDR3 > 500GB HDD > > Dual Boot: > Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit > > On Jan 9, 2014, at 7:00 AM, April Brown <aprilbr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks for your help! >> >> Since dictation won't do what I need it to do in Pages, I'll try to find >> something that will. Just not right now. I've still got to many little odd >> things I don't know how to do on my new computer, and it exhausts me trying >> to figure them out. >> >> As for VoiceOver, I tried to run training program three times over the last >> few weeks, and couldn't get it to do what it was supposed to do within the >> program. I printed off a many page document from AppleVis a few days ago, >> and tried that yesterday. Extremely frustrating. I was able to get it to >> work in Pages about as well as the regular reading program. As for on the >> Internet, not at all. It read the tabs and nothing on the pages. I'm >> setting it aside for now. >> >> Everyone usually comes to me for computer tech advice, reformatting, >> and more. When I read the comments and questions on this, and other blind >> computer sites, I feel like I'm reading a combination of Greek and Chinese. >> I'm totally lost. >> >> I'd rather spend the next couple of weeks doing what I can do. Rather >> than spending them trying to figure out how to do something, that a person >> could show me how to do correctly in five minutes. Somehow there is a >> missing key and I have to figure out what it is. Or better yet, have someone >> show me. >> >> In a couple of weeks, I have my tech evaluation for the state. Or >> maybe they're just going to set the date, I'm not sure. It takes forever to >> get through the state program. I've been working on it for six months. >> >> I'm also slowly learning braille. I figure I will have to use a >> braille display at some point. Talking for the dictation program exhausts >> me, and makes my jaw hurt. Due to hearing loss, I have trouble comprehending >> spoken words, so VoiceOver may not work for me either. >> >> I will keep checking back to learn new computer skills. At this >> point, I'm not sure I have anything to offer anyone else. I don't even >> recognize a tenth of the programs mentioned. >> >> Thanks for all your help. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email tomacvisionarie...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisi...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > On Thursday, January 9, 2014 11:11:35 AM UTC-5, Daniel Hawkins wrote: > Hello April, > > Did you go through I Can Connect? With your hearing loss and vision loss you > should qualify that. I too went thru the program. As the federal law states > the equipment that you receive, you should receive training from the state, > in communication. Now each state is different in providing that. I live in > IL, and we don’t have a trainer, just one person that thinks they know it. I > had to learn everything myself. As of right now, I’m am working twords a goal > in training others to use assistance technology for blind and deafblind. I > will receive my full training hopefully in June. But as of right now, I’m > trying to learn as much I can now. So feel free to contact me off list if you > want training over email, or Apple’s iMessage, or over the phone. I don’t > know a whole a lot, but know enough to get around your Mac quite well. > > There is a deafblind mailing list called dbtechies, if you want to join too. > > I learned a lot of tips and basic things for both Mac, and iPhone at > www.htb2.com. There is a group of blind that talks and discuss about everyday > technology for the blind. > > Also if you are serious that you need this for your profession, maybe check > out Mac for the blind, or Fedora Outlier. Just some ideas. > As for surfing the internet, and you mentioned about you just see tabs but > not the page. If you go to the right and pass the tabs and see HTML contact, > you will need to interact. That is done by holding Vo shift down. Or > deinteract by holding VO shift and hit up arrow. > > Also here is a tip, If you want to google search or type an address in > Safari, just hit cmd l, that will take you to the address bar. > > I know there is an steep learning curve, and without no training, it can be > very very frustrating. Please, don’t give up, it will be worth it. > Daniel Hawkins > - Posted from my Macbook Pro > > 2012 15in. Macbook Pro > 2.3 Quad-core i7 > 4GB DDR3 > 500GB HDD > > Dual Boot: > Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit > > On Jan 9, 2014, at 7:00 AM, April Brown <aprilbr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks for your help! >> >> Since dictation won't do what I need it to do in Pages, I'll try to find >> something that will. Just not right now. I've still got to many little odd >> things I don't know how to do on my new computer, and it exhausts me trying >> to figure them out. >> >> As for VoiceOver, I tried to run training program three times over the last >> few weeks, and couldn't get it to do what it was supposed to do within the >> program. I printed off a many page document from AppleVis a few days ago, >> and tried that yesterday. Extremely frustrating. I was able to get it to >> work in Pages about as well as the regular reading program. As for on the >> Internet, not at all. It read the tabs and nothing on the pages. I'm >> setting it aside for now. >> >> Everyone usually comes to me for computer tech advice, reformatting, >> and more. When I read the comments and questions on this, and other blind >> computer sites, I feel like I'm reading a combination of Greek and Chinese. >> I'm totally lost. >> >> I'd rather spend the next couple of weeks doing what I can do. Rather >> than spending them trying to figure out how to do something, that a person >> could show me how to do correctly in five minutes. Somehow there is a >> missing key and I have to figure out what it is. Or better yet, have someone >> show me. >> >> In a couple of weeks, I have my tech evaluation for the state. Or >> maybe they're just going to set the date, I'm not sure. It takes forever to >> get through the state program. I've been working on it for six months. >> >> I'm also slowly learning braille. I figure I will have to use a >> braille display at some point. Talking for the dictation program exhausts >> me, and makes my jaw hurt. Due to hearing loss, I have trouble comprehending >> spoken words, so VoiceOver may not work for me either. >> >> I will keep checking back to learn new computer skills. At this >> point, I'm not sure I have anything to offer anyone else. I don't even >> recognize a tenth of the programs mentioned. >> >> Thanks for all your help. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email tomacvisionarie...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisi...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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