Hello April,

Did you go through I Can Connect? With your hearing loss and vision loss you 
should qualify that. I too went thru the program. As the federal law states the 
equipment that you receive, you should receive training from the state, in 
communication. Now each state is different in providing that. I live in IL, and 
we don’t have a trainer, just one person that thinks they know it. I had to 
learn everything myself. As of right now, I’m am working twords a goal in 
training others to use assistance technology for blind and deafblind. I will 
receive my full training hopefully in June. But as of right now, I’m trying to 
learn as much I can now. So feel free to contact me off list if you want 
training over email, or Apple’s iMessage, or over the phone. I don’t know a 
whole a lot, but know enough to get around your Mac quite well.

There is a deafblind mailing list called dbtechies, if you want to join too.

I learned a lot of tips and basic things for both Mac, and iPhone at 
www.htb2.com. There is a group of blind that talks and discuss about everyday 
technology for the blind.

Also if you are serious that you need this for your profession, maybe check out 
Mac for the blind, or Fedora Outlier. Just some ideas.
As for surfing the internet, and you mentioned about you just see tabs but not 
the page. If you go to the right and pass the tabs and see HTML contact, you 
will need to interact. That is done by holding Vo shift down. Or deinteract by 
holding VO shift and hit up arrow.

Also here is a tip, If you want to google search or type an address in Safari, 
just hit cmd l, that will take you to the address bar.

I know there is an steep learning curve, and without no training, it can be 
very very frustrating. Please, don’t give up, it will be worth it.
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

On Jan 9, 2014, at 7:00 AM, April Brown <aprilbrownwr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for your help!
> 
> Since dictation won't do what I need it to do in Pages, I'll try to find 
> something that will. Just not right now.  I've still got to many little odd 
> things I don't know how to do on my new computer, and it exhausts me trying 
> to figure them out.
> 
> As for VoiceOver, I tried to run training program three times over the last 
> few weeks, and couldn't get it to do what it was supposed to do within the 
> program.  I printed off a many page document from AppleVis a few days ago, 
> and tried that yesterday.  Extremely frustrating.  I was able to get it to 
> work in Pages about as well as the regular reading program.  As for on the 
> Internet, not at all.  It read the tabs and nothing on the pages.  I'm 
> setting it aside for now.
> 
>       Everyone usually comes to me for computer tech advice, reformatting, 
> and more.  When I read the comments and questions on this, and other blind 
> computer sites, I feel like I'm reading a combination of Greek and Chinese. 
> I'm totally lost.
> 
>      I'd rather spend the next couple of weeks doing what I can do. Rather 
> than spending them trying to figure out how to do something, that a person 
> could show me how to do correctly in five minutes.  Somehow there is a 
> missing key and I have to figure out what it is. Or better yet, have someone 
> show me.
> 
>       In a couple of weeks, I have my tech evaluation for the state. Or maybe 
> they're just going to set the date, I'm not sure. It takes forever to get 
> through the state program. I've been working on it for six months.
> 
>        I'm also slowly learning braille. I figure I will have to use a 
> braille display at some point. Talking for the dictation program exhausts me, 
> and makes my jaw hurt. Due to hearing loss, I have trouble comprehending 
> spoken words, so VoiceOver may not work for me either.
> 
>         I will keep checking back to learn new computer skills.  At this 
> point, I'm not sure I have anything to offer anyone else.  I don't even 
> recognize a tenth of the programs mentioned.
> 
> Thanks for all your help.
> 
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