Hi Daniel,
I haven't been enrolled in that program yet, unless it is part of the
state program. I was diagnosies legaly blind last May, and am still in the
early stages of getting help from the state. This next appointment should
help.
If I ever learn to use the technology, I'd like to be able to help
others like me cross the bridge from the sighted and hearing world to
non-sighted and non-hearing world. If it intimidates me, I can only
imagine what it would do to someone who may not even know how to check
their email before they go blind or deaf.
I might contact offline next week. Am sick today and have online
Braille class office hours in a few minutes. There are some power Mac
users in there as well.
Is the dbtechies on Google?
I signed up for the website newsletter.
I'll try to understand the VO commands later. I know I tried what I
thought I was supposed to, and they only lightly beeped at me.
I still have enough vision most days to get around the computer, at least
till the evaluation in a few weeks.
Thanks, and I may contact if still lost,
April
On Thursday, January 9, 2014 11:11:35 AM UTC-5, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
>
> Hello April,
>
> Did you go through I Can Connect? With your hearing loss and vision loss
> you should qualify that. I too went thru the program. As the federal law
> states the equipment that you receive, you should receive training from the
> state, in communication. Now each state is different in providing that. I
> live in IL, and we don’t have a trainer, just one person that thinks they
> know it. I had to learn everything myself. As of right now, I’m am working
> twords a goal in training others to use assistance technology for blind and
> deafblind. I will receive my full training hopefully in June. But as of
> right now, I’m trying to learn as much I can now. So feel free to contact
> me off list if you want training over email, or Apple’s iMessage, or over
> the phone. I don’t know a whole a lot, but know enough to get around your
> Mac quite well.
>
> There is a deafblind mailing list called dbtechies, if you want to join
> too.
>
> I learned a lot of tips and basic things for both Mac, and iPhone at
> www.htb2.com. There is a group of blind that talks and discuss about
> everyday technology for the blind.
>
> Also if you are serious that you need this for your profession, maybe
> check out Mac for the blind, or Fedora Outlier. Just some ideas.
> As for surfing the internet, and you mentioned about you just see tabs but
> not the page. If you go to the right and pass the tabs and see HTML
> contact, you will need to interact. That is done by holding Vo shift down.
> Or deinteract by holding VO shift and hit up arrow.
>
> Also here is a tip, If you want to google search or type an address in
> Safari, just hit cmd l, that will take you to the address bar.
>
> I know there is an steep learning curve, and without no training, it can
> be very very frustrating. Please, don’t give up, it will be worth it.
> Daniel Hawkins
> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>
> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
> 2.3 Quad-core i7
> 4GB DDR3
> 500GB HDD
>
> Dual Boot:
> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>
> On Jan 9, 2014, at 7:00 AM, April Brown <aprilbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Since dictation won't do what I need it to do in Pages, I'll try to find
> something that will. Just not right now. I've still got to many little odd
> things I don't know how to do on my new computer, and it exhausts me trying
> to figure them out.
>
> As for VoiceOver, I tried to run training program three times over the
> last few weeks, and couldn't get it to do what it was supposed to do within
> the program. I printed off a many page document from AppleVis a few days
> ago, and tried that yesterday. Extremely frustrating. I was able to get
> it to work in Pages about as well as the regular reading program. As for
> on the Internet, not at all. It read the tabs and nothing on the pages.
> I'm setting it aside for now.
>
> Everyone usually comes to me for computer tech advice, reformatting,
> and more. When I read the comments and questions on this, and other blind
> computer sites, I feel like I'm reading a combination of Greek and Chinese.
> I'm totally lost.
>
> I'd rather spend the next couple of weeks doing what I can do. Rather
> than spending them trying to figure out how to do something, that a person
> could show me how to do correctly in five minutes. Somehow there is a
> missing key and I have to figure out what it is. Or better yet, have
> someone show me.
>
> In a couple of weeks, I have my tech evaluation for the state. Or
> maybe they're just going to set the date, I'm not sure. It takes forever to
> get through the state program. I've been working on it for six months.
>
> I'm also slowly learning braille. I figure I will have to use a
> braille display at some point. Talking for the dictation program exhausts
> me, and makes my jaw hurt. Due to hearing loss, I have trouble
> comprehending spoken words, so VoiceOver may not work for me either.
>
> I will keep checking back to learn new computer skills. At this
> point, I'm not sure I have anything to offer anyone else. I don't even
> recognize a tenth of the programs mentioned.
>
> Thanks for all your help.
>
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On Thursday, January 9, 2014 11:11:35 AM UTC-5, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
>
> Hello April,
>
> Did you go through I Can Connect? With your hearing loss and vision loss
> you should qualify that. I too went thru the program. As the federal law
> states the equipment that you receive, you should receive training from the
> state, in communication. Now each state is different in providing that. I
> live in IL, and we don’t have a trainer, just one person that thinks they
> know it. I had to learn everything myself. As of right now, I’m am working
> twords a goal in training others to use assistance technology for blind and
> deafblind. I will receive my full training hopefully in June. But as of
> right now, I’m trying to learn as much I can now. So feel free to contact
> me off list if you want training over email, or Apple’s iMessage, or over
> the phone. I don’t know a whole a lot, but know enough to get around your
> Mac quite well.
>
> There is a deafblind mailing list called dbtechies, if you want to join
> too.
>
> I learned a lot of tips and basic things for both Mac, and iPhone at
> www.htb2.com. There is a group of blind that talks and discuss about
> everyday technology for the blind.
>
> Also if you are serious that you need this for your profession, maybe
> check out Mac for the blind, or Fedora Outlier. Just some ideas.
> As for surfing the internet, and you mentioned about you just see tabs but
> not the page. If you go to the right and pass the tabs and see HTML
> contact, you will need to interact. That is done by holding Vo shift down.
> Or deinteract by holding VO shift and hit up arrow.
>
> Also here is a tip, If you want to google search or type an address in
> Safari, just hit cmd l, that will take you to the address bar.
>
> I know there is an steep learning curve, and without no training, it can
> be very very frustrating. Please, don’t give up, it will be worth it.
> Daniel Hawkins
> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>
> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
> 2.3 Quad-core i7
> 4GB DDR3
> 500GB HDD
>
> Dual Boot:
> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>
> On Jan 9, 2014, at 7:00 AM, April Brown <aprilbr...@gmail.com<javascript:>>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Since dictation won't do what I need it to do in Pages, I'll try to find
> something that will. Just not right now. I've still got to many little odd
> things I don't know how to do on my new computer, and it exhausts me trying
> to figure them out.
>
> As for VoiceOver, I tried to run training program three times over the
> last few weeks, and couldn't get it to do what it was supposed to do within
> the program. I printed off a many page document from AppleVis a few days
> ago, and tried that yesterday. Extremely frustrating. I was able to get
> it to work in Pages about as well as the regular reading program. As for
> on the Internet, not at all. It read the tabs and nothing on the pages.
> I'm setting it aside for now.
>
> Everyone usually comes to me for computer tech advice, reformatting,
> and more. When I read the comments and questions on this, and other blind
> computer sites, I feel like I'm reading a combination of Greek and Chinese.
> I'm totally lost.
>
> I'd rather spend the next couple of weeks doing what I can do. Rather
> than spending them trying to figure out how to do something, that a person
> could show me how to do correctly in five minutes. Somehow there is a
> missing key and I have to figure out what it is. Or better yet, have
> someone show me.
>
> In a couple of weeks, I have my tech evaluation for the state. Or
> maybe they're just going to set the date, I'm not sure. It takes forever to
> get through the state program. I've been working on it for six months.
>
> I'm also slowly learning braille. I figure I will have to use a
> braille display at some point. Talking for the dictation program exhausts
> me, and makes my jaw hurt. Due to hearing loss, I have trouble
> comprehending spoken words, so VoiceOver may not work for me either.
>
> I will keep checking back to learn new computer skills. At this
> point, I'm not sure I have anything to offer anyone else. I don't even
> recognize a tenth of the programs mentioned.
>
> Thanks for all your help.
>
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