Ok, sorry; I didn’t notice how dated that article is. I’m still going to 
research this, however.

Teresa

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too 
dark to read."--Groucho Marx

On Oct 29, 2013, at 7:22 AM, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This looks interesting. I’m going to play with it and see how accessible it 
> is.
> http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2008/10/advanced-imap-settings-for-gmail.html
> 
> Teresa
> 
> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
> 
> On Oct 29, 2013, at 4:02 AM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> Ok stupid question of the year: What’s this Gmail issue that everyone is so 
>> upset about? Me, i haven’t had any problems at all except that my smtp 
>> server of the private domain i have flatly refuses to hook up to my smtp 
>> server despite giving the correct password, but that’s a totally different 
>> story.
>> /Krister
>> 
>> 29 okt 2013 kl. 05:17 skrev Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com>:
>> 
>>> I thought I had read some while back that there could be a way to tell 
>>> gmail to use standard IMAP behavior instead of their approach. I think it 
>>> was in Google Labs or some such. Anyone know about this or given it a try? 
>>> Maybe if that were set, Mail might work better with gmail hosted accounts.
>>> 
>>> Humm, wonder if there are any other email clients one could try for the 
>>> Mac? I read somewhere that Thundrbird might be an alternative but I bet the 
>>> a11y in it is probably no better than with Firefox right now.
>>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2013, at 7:31 PM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Just to clarify, AOL mail is also free and has been for some years. I'm 
>>>> not sure if there is an upper limit on the mailbox size but I currently 
>>>> have about 34,000 messages in my inbox at the moment so whatever the limit 
>>>> is, it's pretty high.
>>>> 
>>>> Full disclosure, I'm currently working with the AOL mail folks to make 
>>>> their products accessible, but it's not perfect yet.
>>>> 
>>>> CB
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/28/13 6:34 PM, Maria From Australia wrote:
>>>>> hi.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm still trying to figure out if i'm having problems. I am away from 
>>>>> home and so am using a portable hot spot. Don't really want to turn on 
>>>>> all mail. i wonder if limiting the size of the all mail folder would stop 
>>>>> gmail from downloading everything and help with any sincing problems?
>>>>> any ideas? don't really want to have to pay for email but is there 
>>>>> anything free out there that offers a fair bit of space? and-or is there 
>>>>> an accessible email client for mac? i love apple mail and enjoy gmail so 
>>>>> I hope it can be resolved but it's good to look at alternatives just in 
>>>>> case.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Blessings!  Maria and my guide Karly  email bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 29 Oct 2013, at 8:36 am, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There's always AOL mail. Has supported IMAP support for about a decade.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> CB
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 10/25/13 2:26 PM, Jeff Bishop wrote:
>>>>>>> There are a few:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> iCloud
>>>>>>> outlook.com (they now support imap and you can even bring your domain)
>>>>>>> office365 ($4 per month but a huge deal if you want to pay for email)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamie Pauls
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 6:30 AM
>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Gmail Issues in Mavericks, Pretty Major, Folks
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What are some Gmail replacements the list might recommend? What about 
>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>> iCloud mail or Hotmail? Would be interested in some fairly quick and 
>>>>>>> dirty
>>>>>>> workarounds.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:19 AM, May and Noah <mcdonald....@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hmm, guess I'm lucky. I'm not having any problems with gmail and
>>>>>>> mavericks, but this is definitely an email I'll keep in case something
>>>>>>> changes and I need this at a future date.
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> May and Prince Noah
>>>>>>>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:53 AM, Nicholas Parsons
>>>>>>> <mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Teresa, it's great that you're pointing that out for folks. 
>>>>>>>>> Some
>>>>>>> of it isn't quite 100% accurate, however. From what I've read, for 
>>>>>>> instance,
>>>>>>> All Mail doesn't get placed in your Archive folder exactly. In fact, 
>>>>>>> Mail
>>>>>>> kind of gets rid of folders all together for gmail. Instead, just like 
>>>>>>> gmail
>>>>>>> on the web, there is only one folder per se, and that is All Mail. 
>>>>>>> Messages
>>>>>>> get given labels like inbox or whatever other personal labels you have,
>>>>>>> which act much like folders only different. Rather than me trying to
>>>>>>> explain, interested people are better off reading the following article:
>>>>>>>>> http://tidbits.com/article/14219
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>> Nic
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 25/10/2013, at 3:43 AM, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Someone brought up Gmail issues yesterday. There are definite snafus 
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> Gmail and Mail. basically, the "all mail" folder gets placed in the 
>>>>>>> archive
>>>>>>> folder, and it's necessary to have it enabled in Gmail settings on the
>>>>>>> website. Depending on how much you use Gmail, this may or may not be a
>>>>>>> show-stopper. If you switch to Pop mail, you can no longer use your 
>>>>>>> labels
>>>>>>> from the Gmail site, and you'd have to set up local rules for filtering
>>>>>>> messages in apple Mail. Also, you can't move Gmail folders in apple 
>>>>>>> mail.
>>>>>>>>> Since I use Gmail for about 20 mailing lists I'm on, and I sync my 
>>>>>>>>> mail
>>>>>>> with my iPod, I'm going to try not to ditch Gmail for now. Whatever you 
>>>>>>> do,
>>>>>>> do *not* go into the "all mail" folder on your devices if you sync with
>>>>>>> them, because a huge bog-down will possibly ensue. For example, I have
>>>>>>> something like twenty thousand messages in my 'all mail" folder.
>>>>>>>>> you can find stuff about this issue when you, uh, google it, so just
>>>>>>> thought I'd clarify things just a tad. I hope it's clarified, at any 
>>>>>>> rate.
>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>> HtH,
>>>>>>>>> Teresa
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham
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